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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 04:33 GMT (UK) »


Keep an open mind!! I couldn't pass it up - I just had to include it!!

1881
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David Crighton 34 Head Dundee Scotland Spinning Mill Overseer Jute & Hemp Manuf
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Annie!

David Crighton was probably a relative of Alexander, maybe a second cousin.  The (extracted) IGI birth records for Dundee & around have a couple of possible candidates for David and I'll see if I can link the parents of either with someone on my tree.

Thanks again,

Al
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 01 February 06 07:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Al,

Glad that Isabella CRICHTON other name SINCLAIR who died in 1868 aged 66 was yours and that I didn't send you off wasting your credits!

Somewhere in this thread, you seemed to indicate that you didn't have the marriage date of James SINCLAIR and Martha JACK.  It's in the IGI.  The following are all extracted entries, all in Eassie & Nevay.
James SINCLAIR m Martha JACK 15 Aug 1795
They had:
*Isobel SINCLAIR bap 16 Aug 1796 (Isabella's age understated at her death, but correct in the 1851 census - where she was 54 and born Eassie)
*Margret SINCLAIR bap 1 May 1798
*John SINCLAIR b 18 Jun, bap 22 Jun 1800
*Ann SINCLAIR b 14 Dec, bap 19 Dec 1802
*Alexander SINCLAIR b 14 Mar, bap 17 Mar 1805

I hope that the Helen JACKSON, other name SCOTT, who died in 1880 aged 79 is also yours!
The following are all extracted entries from the IGI, all in Dundee.
James JACKSON m Helen SCOTT 15 Dec 1827
They had:
Thomas JACKSON b 29 Feb, bap 16 Mar 1828
James JACKSON b 25 Nov, bap 5 Dec 1830
Barbara Scott JACKSON b 11 Mar, bap 25 Mar 1832
Matilda Sturrock JACKSON b 25 Apr, bap 13 May 1834
Janet JACKSON b 8 Jun, bap 3 Jul 1836

There are submitted entries in the IGI for Helen SCOTT's baptism (3 Dec 1800, parents James SCOTT and Elizabeth IRELAND) in Murroes (her birthplace according to the 1851 census where her age is given as 50).  The submission looks pretty reliable.
James SCOTT and Elizabeth IRELAND had in Murroes (extracted entries):
John SCOTT bap 6 Sep 1795
Barbara SCOTT bap 11 Jul 1809
Matilda SCOTT bap 1 Mar 1812
(There are also submitted entries for the following James 1791, Agnes 1793, Helen 1800, David 1805)
It seems that Helen (SCOTT) JACKSON named two of her children after her sisters. - Barbara and Matilda are not particularly common names.

In the IGI there's a marriage (extracted) of a Matilda SCOTT to a Peter STURROCK, 13 Sep 1831, Dundee.  At least this explains your Matilda's middle name of Sturrock!  The IGI has this couple having a Matilda b 1833 Dundee, and a Peter bap 1834 Liff.
The family is in the 1841 census on FreeCEN - Peter STURROCK 30 Weaver, Matilda 28 Dressmaker, Matilda 8, Peter 6, John 4.

I tried to find the death of Martha (JACK) SINCLAIR on the SP free search but without success.  There is one Martha SINCLAIR of an appropriate age who died in 1855 but whether this is Martha JACK or a different Martha SINCLAIR I don't know.  Your Martha (77 in 1851) might well have died between the 1851 census and the start of Statutory Registration in 1855.

JAP
PS: A search for Eassie in Google Images brings up some interesting hits.



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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 02 February 06 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi JAP,

Thanks for the advice and information.  I did some (more disciplined than usual :-[) searching on SP yesterday filling in some holes in my family tree and think I really got my £6 worth!  I found the deaths of James JACKSON, John CRIGHTON & Helen SCOTT and confirmed/found the names of their parents so I now have all 8 great Grandparents of my g Grandmother Matilda CRIGHTON!  All these details tie in with what you found in the IGI.

I didn't have the SCOTT children and it's interesting to find out how the name Matilda came into the family.  My gg Grandmother, g Grandmother and 1st Cousin twice removed were all called Matilda!

I'll have to have a good look at the IGI and see how many more records I can tie up.

Still looking for the movements of my CRIGHTON ancestors in France, especially my g Grandmother, Matilda CRIGHTON and the birth of her son (my Grandfather) John.  I posted on the Généalogie Nord Pas-de-Calais web site on Monday asking for lookups in the Dunkirk BMD records and I had a response from a kind soul called José who looked through the records for me but found no trace of any CRIGHTONs between 1866 & 1892.  The French records are much harder to search than the Scottish & English records as they're organised by town and the indexes are for 10 years.  I think there are some county (departament) records as well but I'm still investigating.  I'll never complain about SP or Ancestry again!

Thanks again,

Regards,

Al
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Al!

I came across this French site - no "Crighton's" but there are "Crichton's"  :)

D'you want to try it??

http://tinyurl.com/ded9m

Annie   :)

These also!!

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/AngloScots/

http://www.fdca.org.uk/poor_index.htm
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 09 February 06 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie!,

Great Links!

The CRICHTON on the French site is one or two departaments to the West of where I was looking for my CRIGHTONs so I perhaps I need to widen my research.  There's a link to a forum the looks like it might be worth joining.

The Dundee burial reocrds on the site from the 3rd link are particularly interesting; there are lots of CRICHTONs with names & dates which could tie up with my ancestors - I need to have a look at these in more detail.  There's also a JACKSON, son of a weaver, born in Ireland who could be a relative of my 3xg Grandfather James JACKSON (Matilda's maternal Grandfather) who was also born in Ireland.  The best bit is that it gives a county of birth - just what I need to try finding my Irish roots!

Thanks again Annie,

Regards,

Al

ps With 59 replies his thread is now the longest on the Angus board.  The next longest has just 13.  I know you love these statistics! ;)
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 09 February 06 16:12 GMT (UK) »


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ps With 59 replies his thread is now the longest on the Angus board.  The next longest has just 13.  I know you love these statistics!

And your point is ...............  ??? ???
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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 11 February 06 22:35 GMT (UK) »


Al!

Would this be any good to you? I'm not sure what's available - I assume the same information that's on other Archive sites !!

http://www.archivesdefrance.culture.gouv.fr/

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Re: No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865
« Reply #62 on: Monday 13 February 06 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Merci Annie!

A bientôt,

Al
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