LOOKUP Please: Biograph. Index of South Aust

[muss]

Hi
 NSW BDM have amended my marriage certificate which had incorrect information. 

Muss

[mcgesc]

Was that a recent Marriage Cert? 
I had similar success with a typo. (McGuire, as Mcguire) on a Death Cert. issued Nov 2012. On phoning NSW BMD I was read the riot act "We have issued a Certificate according to the information supplied by the informant. Are you the informant?" etc etc then told "send us the original and reason for change, and supporting evidence, and we will consider your application." 
I happened to be in Sydney, visited the office, waited 30 mins, interviewed by a Senior Clerk, approved, and left with the freshly printed corrected DC - all up 2 hours. It was a Friday, maybe that made a difference!!

[majm]

BDM (NSW at least) also have a policy of not amending a certificate, post issue. Some BDM officers have the belief their duty if to record the data as submitted by the informant. Data submitted to BDM is not verified or reconciled.

On phoning NSW BMD I was read the riot act "We have issued a Certificate according to the information supplied by the informant. Are you the informant?" etc etc then told "send us the original and reason for change, and supporting evidence, and we will consider your application." 
I happened to be in Sydney, visited the office, waited 30 mins, interviewed by a Senior Clerk, approved, and left with the freshly printed corrected DC - all up 2 hours. It was a Friday, maybe that made a difference!!

I am somewhat confused as to the point being made re NSW BDM.

ADDING,  I have just checked a RESTRICTED death certificate issued by NSW BDM I hold (I was informant, it was for a death THIS century).   The family name is in CAPITAL LETTERS.... so I really am getting confused re comments McGuire v Mcguire and NSW BDM

Cheers,  JM     

[mcgesc]

Based on personal 2012 experience the NSW BMD operated with a variable policy. Bottom line: Errors in BMD can exist.
As known by historians/archivists 'official records' do not necessarily equate to fact.

[majm]

Yes,  I am quite sure that errors in BDM records can and do exist.   I am also quite sure that we are simply re-iterating 'old' ground in our comments re official records and that we are getting off track to the original topic .... 

Cheers,  JM

[mcgesc]

Totally agree re reiteration. I had responded to the confusion "as to the point being made re NSW BDM"

[muss]

HI
 The wedding was 43 years ago. the correction about 15 years ago

Muss

[cando]

If you have access to the index, I would be grateful for a check of the following:

Biographical Index of South Australia - Francis (Frank) McGUIRE - ref. no. 1068/3  (reference was found on an immigration / shipping site).

Francis J McGuire (a bootmaker) married in 1870 in SA to Elizabeth Kearney but she died in 1875.  Apart from trying to find out more about Francis (where came from, where lived, his death, etc), I'd like to learn anything about Francis' son, John McGuire ,who it is believed was born in SA circa 1870.  The 1874 birth of John's sister, Mary Elizabeth McGuire, has been confirmed.

At some stage John went to Qld, where he married; he and his wife died in Sydney in 1940s (already verified).  John's elderly grandaughter tells of John’s mother dying when John was quite young and his father remarrying.  It may be that John's relationship with father / step-mother was strained, because their is a family story about step-mother leaving her estate to a religious order / Convent.
 
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Getting back on track goodles1  .

So to date....

BISA
McGUIRE Francis
Lived Yankalilla
Religion Roman Catholic
Married 27 Feb 1870 Yankalilla SA Eliz nee KEARNEY

South Australian Register 12 Jul 1871
NORMANVILLE : TUESDAY, JULY 4; [Before Messrs. S. Herbert, J.P., and J. Heathcote, J.P.] 
Job Pearson and Francis McGuire, on the information of Police-Trooper Laurence, were fined £2 each and £1 costs for riotous conduct, and removing several gates, and slip-panels in Yankalilla on the night of Tuesday, June 27.

Death
McGUIRE Elizabeth A
30 Apr 1875  24 years  Status Married  Relative Francis McGUIRE [Husband]
Residence Port Pirie  Death Place Port Pirie    Cla 66/137

I can't find a cemetery record for Elizabeth at Port Pirie but not all burials have been transcribed to the Council's online database.

BISA
McGUIRE Francis J
Lived Bowden
Religion Roman Catholic
Married 13 Apr 1877 North Adelaide SA Sarah Jane nee SPURR

MAGUIRE Francis J  28 years Status Widower Father John MAGUIRE
SPURR Sarah Jane  23 years Status Single  Father William SPURR
13 Apr 1877
At St Laurence Church North Adelaide  Ade 111/212

Francis J McQUIRE bootmaker, insolvent 19 Apr 1877 Port Pirie
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I cannot find a death in South Australia for either Francis J or Sarah Jane McQUIRE including spelling variations of the surname.  Perhaps they moved to Queensland.  Does your contact know where Sarah died.  If the family story is correct then there should be a Will and probate grant.

As I mentioned previously, there are a number of Francis McQUIRE/MAGUIRE in South Australia in the era.  The hotelier on the electoral roll at Port Pirie had a wife, Mary.

Perhaps you should be searching in other states for Francis and Sarah's deaths.

Cheers 
Cando

[cando]

Births in Queensland with Parents John DUNNE and Ann COSS

1865/C1622  Richard   
1867/C2181  William   
1869/C2604  Catherine 
1871/C2315  John   
1873/C816    James Patrick   
1874/C1093  Michael   
1876/C1845  Mathew   
1878/C2239  Joseph   
1880/C2720  Bridget   

Marriage in Queensland
1889/C850   
McGUIRE John
DUNNE Catherine

Births in Queensland to John McQUIRE and Catherine DUNNE
1892/C5589    Annie Elizabeth   
1893/C5083    Elizabeth Muriel   
1896/C4761    Catherine Mary   
1900/C5198    John Francis   
1902/C5150    Mary Eileen   
1907/C5378    Doreen Annie   

Deaths in NSW

15991/1946     
McGUIRE     John
Father Francis  Mother Elizabeth
District Burwood

1219/1945     
McGUIRE   Catherine
Father John Mother  Ann
District Burwood

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
McGUIRE Catherine Woolgar Street, Gympie  HD
McGUIRE John Woolgar Street, Gympie  Miner

1905, 1909
McGUIRE Catherine  Nelson Road, Gympie  HD
McGUIRE John  Nelson Road, Gympie  miner

1913
McGUIRE Catherine  Many Peaks  HD
McGUIRE John  Many Peaks  Miner

1930, 1933
McGUIRE Catherine  78 Burwood Road, Concord  HD
McGUIRE John  78 Burwood Road, Concord  Labourer

1943
McGUIRE Catherine 49 Blenheim Street, Enfield  HD
McGUIRE John  49 Blenheim Street, Enfield  No occupation

Sydney Morning Herald  12 Jan 1945
McGUIRE- January 11 1945 at her residence 49 Blenheim Street Enfield Catherine dearly beloved wife of John McGuire and loving mother of Elizabeth "Muriel 'Mrs Norman) Catherine (Mrs McAllister) Eileen (Mrs Brunton deceased) Doreen (Mrs Bond) and grandmother of John Brunton, Henry, Jack,  Ray Norman and Neville McAllister, in her 75th year Requierscat In pace.  For funeral notice see Saturday’s “Herald”.

McGUIRE-January 11 1945 at her residence 49 Blenheim Street Enfield Catherine dearlv beloved wife of John McGuire and loving sister of William James Joseph and Bridget of Queensland RIP

Sydney Morning Herald  Sat 13 Jan 1945
MCGUIRE.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. John McGuire and Family, of 49 Blenheim .Street, Enfield, are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved Wife and their Mother. Catherine; to leave St. Joseph's Church, Burwood Heights, This (Saturday) Afternoon, at 2.45 o'clock, for Catholic Cemetery. Rookwood,  No. 3 Mortuary, section 10. P. Byrnes and Co. Pty., Limited. Funeral Directors. .

The Sydney Morning Herald  Saturday 29 Jun 1946

McGUIRE – Holy mass for the repose of the Soul of the late Mr John McGuire of 49 Blenheim Street, Enfield, will be celebrated at St Joseph’s Church, Burwood Heights, This (Saturday) Morning, at 6.45 o’clock.

McGUIRE – The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. H G Norman and Family, of Wootton, Mrs C McAllister and Family, of Concord, Mrs A Bond and Family of Enfield and Mr Jack Bunton, of Enfield, are informed that the Funeral of their late dearly loved Father, Father-in-law, and Grandfather, Mr John McGuire, of 49 Blenheim Street, Enfield, will leave St Joseph’s Church, Burwood Heights, This (Saturday) Afternoon, at 3 o’clock, for Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood, Mortuary No 3.  W N Bull Pty Ltd., AFDA  Telephone LA2858.

There is no headstones for Catherine and John at Rookwood Catholic Cemetery according to my resource.

Cheers
Cando