Bate

[LoopyLil]

I have had alook at the witnesses, suzard.

They are a Joseph Simpson Bell, Elsie Bell, Percy Williams and a Laura Sharp.  I have checked the writing style Bell to Bate, and it is a definate Bell.
 
I too wondered about the 'bachelor' bit, wondering if he had fibbed? 

Thank you 

[LoopyLil]

does this entry seem a good bet for a birth cert.


Births Jun 1882
Bate  Joseph     Stoke T.  6b 271

I can make that year tie in with his age at death and his age at marriage.
The other entry in 1882 has a middle name so I have ruled that out. 

[Ladyhawk]

Staffordshire BMD http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/births.php

1875 BATE John LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1878 BATE Sarah Ann LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1880 BATE John Thomas LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1882 BATE Joseph Longton Stoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1884 BATE Maria Longton Stoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1887 BATE Annie LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn ? (not given)

1889 BATE Mary Lizzie LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

1892 BATE Emily LongtonStoke-On-Trent mmn GROCOTT

FreeBMD marriage Sep 1873 Stoke T vol 6b page 351
John Bate name on same page Ann Grocott

1873 St Peter Stoke
John BATE to Ann GROCOTT

RG11; Piece: 2734; Folio: 131; Page: 21
26 Lower Russell Street Stoke on Trent
John Bates 34 Wednsbury Staffs Coal Miner
Ann 30 Longton
Sarah Ann 3 “
John 1

Sarah Ann Bates ch age 1 4 Jan 1880 Longton
John Thomas Bates born 13 Dec 1879 ch 4 Jan 1880 Longton
Mary Lizzie Bate born 12 Aug ch. 15 Sep 1889 Longton

[LoopyLil]

Wow, thank you Ladyhawk!

This is brill.  This man has been doing my head in for months, he has been shelved for ages.  Seems as though this is him! 

Thank you everyone for your input, I couldn't have done it without you.