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Offline LoopyLil

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Bate
« on: Friday 04 May 12 11:14 BST (UK) »
Hi  :)
Can anyone help me as to where to go next please?

I am researching a Joseph BATE.
He was married (aged 33 and listed as a miner) in 1915 in North Featherstone to a Emily LOWE.
He died in 1947 in Featherstone. No DOB on certificate.

His father, according to his marriage certificate, was a miner called John BATE.

What I am trying to do is locate Joseph's  birth, I don't know where he was born and there are several births with this name around 1882, none of which are around the Yorkshire area.
How do I go about hunting his birth?  What/where should I try next? ???

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Re: Bate
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:25 BST (UK) »
1891 census has

John Bate 50 coal miner b Wednesbury Staffs
Ann 42 wife b Longton Staffs
John J 11 son b ditto
Maria 7 dau b ditto
Joseph 9 son b ditto
Ann 4 dau b ditto
Mary E 1 dau b ditto
Ann 76 widow boarder b Sedgley Staffs
28 Russell Street,Stoke upon Trent,Longton
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Bate
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:27 BST (UK) »
1901 has same family in Fenton Staffs at 45 Berdmore Street,Stoke upon Trent
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Bate
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this info Isobelruss, much appreciated.

This narrows down the birth entries  :)

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Re: Bate
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:37 BST (UK) »
hello
1911 census has a joseph bate in a hospital in wakefield.coal miner born 1879 in staffordshire.
states already married though so may have to look for death of a wife
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Atack,Earnshaw,Holroyd.Holroyde, Craven.Rangeley,Gledhill.Sheffield.Brearley,Walker West Yorkshire
Crowther,Hopley,Lane,Riding.   Horwich- Lancashire.

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Re: Bate
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lee.

I will have a look at this too. 

Cheers.

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Re: Bate
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:49 BST (UK) »
hello
there are 2 marriages for a joseph bate in pontefract. emily lowe as you know and another in 1905 so looks like he could have been married twice.
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Atack,Earnshaw,Holroyd.Holroyde, Craven.Rangeley,Gledhill.Sheffield.Brearley,Walker West Yorkshire
Crowther,Hopley,Lane,Riding.   Horwich- Lancashire.

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Re: Bate
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you Lee,
I have just had a look at the other marriage, possible wife Frances, located a poss death for her in the late 1950's. 

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 May 12 11:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: hol on Friday 04 May 12 11:49 BST (UK)
hello
there are 2 marriages for a joseph bate in pontefract. emily lowe as you know and another in 1905 so looks like he could have been married twice.
lee

On marriage entry to Emily Lowe he is descibed as "bachelor"

I wondered if any of witnesses were related - one witness is Percy Williams -the other is too faint to read -it could be l???? Bate - is it any clearer on the marriage certificate, Loopylil?
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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