Jane Smith and Florence (Florrie) Barrett

[shellyesq]

Perhaps you could work out which births are Florence & Jane on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/.  At least narrowing their birth to a 3-month time frame might help.

[brionne]

Jane Elizabeth Barrett 1884
Kidderminster 2nd Qtr, 6c  259.

Florence Barrett 1897
Halifax 4th Qtr,  9a   400
Both found Free BDM

However there is another one NOT on Free BMD
Flora Barrett 1897 2nd Qtr
Halifax 9a   447.

Is it feasible that Jane Elizabeth is in fact Florence mother.Stranger things do happen.

[brionne]

Have searched extensively for Jane Elizabeth and Florence after 1927,last positive sailing on the Orduna July 27th Liv to Colon Cuba.[Family Search]
But nothing comes up,that can confirm them.

A few Jane or Jane E Smith disembarking New York 1950s. [Family Search]

Examples,June 29th 1957 Caronia Mrs Jane E Smith,  Britain 901432 born Britain.
355 Guy Park Avenue,Amsterdam New York.
with Ann Smith and Ann R Smith.

Mrs Jane Smith 1st Class Queen Elizabeth Southampton to NY.30 Aug 1955
V-1652712 Britain.
Care/of Mrs J F Stein 40 East  66th St New York.

Its a mystery,hope there is no offense re my comment on above post re Florence parentage,as non was intended.

[colaine]

Hi Brionne
Thank you for your interest in my family.
In the 1911 census Sarah an Barrett (my g grandmother) had a boarding house in Blackpool.
Jane E and Florence (Florrie) lived there together with Eldred Smith.
Jane married Eldred in 1912 and he died in 1914.I have a copy of his will and her left his money to his widow (Jane) and a mr Ernest J White ( cashier),
After the death of Eldred the two sisters ( and occasionally mr White)went travelling,mainly too and from Hawaii.
Between1919and 1927 I have 15 ships manifests with their names on.
I also have an 'alien cert'dept of labor for Jane when she arrived in Honolulu in 1922 on the 'sonomo' fromSydney.
My family have told me that one of the sisters married a military man but I can't find any proof. They came to visit us in the early 1940's but we missed them. An auntie told me.  They came from Honolulu and looked very affluent.
Thanks again for your interest

[brionne]

Thanks for mentioning the 1911 info.

Its certainly tricky trying to nail these two women down.
Notice an Australian marriage for a Florance 1939.
 Possible that either or stayed in the United States,due to their continued visits to Honolulu.
Hopefully not killed at Pearl Harbour,some civilians were. Brionne.

[rosball]

Have you checked their parents and siblings death notices?  As they were affluent they may have put in quite detailed death notices including their full name and location.

regards
   Ros

[shellyesq]

There is a list of civilian casualties at Pearl Harbor here - https://www.nps.gov/valr/learn/historyculture/civilian-casualties.htm  No matches there.

[colaine]

Hi Shelly
Thanks for your help but I know that the sisters visited England around 1948
So the couldn't have perished in 'Pearl Harbour'
Thanks again for your help.

[colaine]

Hi All
I would like to update you of my findings re the above sisters.
I have now found that Florence married Isaiah McKenzie (police Officer)who was born in Chesterville Ontario Canada in 1905. He lived most of his life in Michigan and they were married in Panama Canal Zone in 1930. He died in Christobel Colon Panama in 1962.
Florence died 1971 Trenton Wayne Michigan .Before she married she travelled (with her sister Jane E Smith) .I have a total of 20 plus voyages they made together.
Hope this is of interest .
Colaine