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Help to decipher ww2 service record
« on: Thursday 03 May 12 21:03 BST (UK) »
help with ww2 service record

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Wasnt sure where to post this, sorry.On the ww2 service record there is a piece which says:-
RAMC transfered to RAmc wef authy:-act 626/39 W.O.L 20 Misc 1008 (AGID) d7-4-40 +ME order 1328/4? +BM/02E/22/1442/A.d 13-3-42
Can anyone decipher this please.??

Also Cause of becoming Non-effective KR1940 Para 390 (xvi)

Hopefully someone can decipher these. Have managed to interpret all the rest.
Thanks

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Re: Help to decipher ww2 service record
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 May 12 22:11 BST (UK) »
KR1940 Para 390 (xvi)

Ceasing to fulfill army physical requirements.

Was there a letter after the xvi? The subclause is broken into two further divisions:

(a) unfit for service except in dire emergencies or in some other duties
(b) unfit for any form of army service.

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Re: Help to decipher ww2 service record
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 May 12 09:06 BST (UK) »
yes there is sorry (B).

Thankyou for your help.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 May 12 09:20 BST (UK) »
"RAMC transfered to RAmc wef authy:-act 626/39 W.O.L 20 Misc 1008 (AGID) d7-4-40 +ME order 1328/4? +BM/02E/22/1442/A.d 13-3-42"

wef - with effect from

the rest of the code refers to the regulation - dating from 1939 [626/39] and updated in 194? [1328/4?]- which authorised and governed your man's transfer. The final digits are the date on which the transfer occurred 13th March 1942.

Every official action in the army is governed by some rule or other, these are constantly being updated and re-worded. Nothing happens without the right "chitty" and the correct rule/authority having been cited.

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Re: Help to decipher ww2 service record
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 May 12 09:45 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for all your help.

Also mentioned on the sheet is
X(II) List
2GH
Y List.

I would scan the document but scanner is not cooperating this morning, sorry

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 May 12 12:26 BST (UK) »
X (ii) means that he was evacuated, due to medical reasons, and so was no longer on the role of his previous unit.

Y List - after he had recoverd, he would be placed in a holding unit awaiting further orders. Some were sent to other units, others discharged because of medical reasons.

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Re: Help to decipher ww2 service record
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 May 12 13:55 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your help,  have found that he was in 2nd general hospital/middle east.
Discharged from the Y List.

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Re: Help to decipher ww2 service record
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 May 12 21:35 BST (UK) »
hi my grandad was discharged in 1949 with cause of discharge K.R.40 Para 390 (1x)(a) can some one please help with this. Also how do you find out where he was treated.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 May 12 22:55 BST (UK) »
There were a whole host of reasons why men were discharged from the Armed Forces, all governed by King's Regulations [KR] which were regularly re-issued - so KR40 is the 1940 edition of King's Regulations. Paragraph 390 of those Regulations laid down in various sub-sections the detailed reasons for discharge. I don't know what section ix [Roman numerals for 9] sub section "a" stood for in 1940 - in the first war it stood for "unfitted for the duties of the corps" but that might well be different in 1940.

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