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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 May 12 14:31 BST (UK) »
You're Linda's cousin  :D I remember her always saying that all (or nearly all  ;)) McGoogans from Edinburgh area were connected...which is what made me think of her!

Re Isabella Lillian, have you found her on any census apart from 1891? I am guessing her life is also a bit complicated perhaps?

Regarding the parents' names she gave or were given for her at death, all a bit confusing isn't  :-\ She could have been illegitimate perhaps.... Entries such as this perhaps for births:

Isabella DONALDSON b. 21 Sept. 1862 in Torthorwald, Dumfries. Mother Catherine DONALDSON

Where did Isabella Lilly die? Was it in Ireland or Scotland?

With daughter Sarah showing an Irish address, any luck following through on that?

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 May 12 15:04 BST (UK) »
Rosie, not sure what is contained in this file from NAS. If you search on their site here www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/ - just put mcgoogan between dates 1870-1915 and up comes one entry:

SC58/50/23 - criminal record between 28 Mar 1890-13 Jan 1897

This listing includes the name of John McGoogan, 31 Jul 1896.

These items have to be view on site or arrangements made for copies to be sent out.

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 May 12 15:11 BST (UK) »
Hi again Monica

No I haven't been able to definitely find her on any of the census, apart from 1891.  There seems to be so many Isabella Dawsons around, born Scotland, England and Ireland so I dont know which one it could be as I have so little info on her.

Never thought of the illegitimate theory - quite possible.  Will have to look into that.

Isabella died in the district of Kelvin in Glasgow.

No I havent gone any further in trying to trace the daughter Sarah McPhail in Ireland as yet.

It seems I have a whole lot of work to do!

OOPS...just about to POST this when your other one came through.  Thank you so much will look into that right now.

Thanks again  :)
McGoochan/Magoohan/McGoohan/McGowan etc...
Conway
Fitzpatrick
Conroy
McMahon
Carracher
All above Scotland and Ireland

Butler - Lambeth
Maybe Talbot - Kentish Town, London?

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 May 12 15:17 BST (UK) »
Dawson or Lawson...?!

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 May 12 15:43 BST (UK) »
Sorry Monica - typing error - I meant Lawson!

Have looked at the link you mentioned for the NAS .  Seems there is another McGoohan listed for assault and robbery, sentenced to 8 years and with previous convictions for assault.

This family seems to have quite a few bad boys among them.

I am just going to make enquiries now about ordering through the post to NAS

Thank you for your help

Rosie :D
McGoochan/Magoohan/McGoohan/McGowan etc...
Conway
Fitzpatrick
Conroy
McMahon
Carracher
All above Scotland and Ireland

Butler - Lambeth
Maybe Talbot - Kentish Town, London?

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 May 12 17:23 BST (UK) »
Checking for Poor Relief applications may give more early history of the family

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 19:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Sancti - how/where exactly can I find these records please?

Rosie
McGoochan/Magoohan/McGoohan/McGowan etc...
Conway
Fitzpatrick
Conroy
McMahon
Carracher
All above Scotland and Ireland

Butler - Lambeth
Maybe Talbot - Kentish Town, London?

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Re: Help Please - Where is he on the 1891 census?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 May 12 18:40 BST (UK) »

Many thanks - I will take a look.

Rosie :)
McGoochan/Magoohan/McGoohan/McGowan etc...
Conway
Fitzpatrick
Conroy
McMahon
Carracher
All above Scotland and Ireland

Butler - Lambeth
Maybe Talbot - Kentish Town, London?