Andrew Allan & Jeanie Dalrymple, from Elie.

[Marylene_G]

Hello everyone,

I'm posting this new thread in relation to a previous one. John Christie and Isabella Henderson had a daughter : Janet (Jessie) Christie. She was born about 1893 in Fife.

This date of birth is calculated from her marriage certificate to Andrew Allan, 10 May 1922 in Cecil Gardens, Glasgow. I'm including a photograph of the mariage certificate below to better illustrate my query. From the thread previously mentionned, I have information on Janet's parents but I'm trying to find out more information about Andrew Allan and his family.

Here's what I found :

• According to the mariage certificate: Andrew's parents are Andrew Allan and Jeanie Dalrymple.
• Andrew Allan born about 1855, died  in 1930, buried in Elie cemetery.
• Jeanie Dalrymple born about 1860 died in 1915, buried in Elie cemetery.(This last piece of information I found on a Rootsweb post about Elie Headstones)

I'm looking for their birth information, either Andrew or Jeanie, or mariage information. Regarding that, I think their were married after 1881 since I did not find any census information stating that they were married before then. I have a guess that the Alexander Allan mentionned on the picture I included maybe Andrew father's but with no other sources I'm hitting the proverbial brick wall.

Thank you in advance for any help or pointers!
Great day to everyone 

IMAGE REMOVED - COPYRIGHT , small portions of a certificate may be posted for handwriting recognition

[hdw]

Hi. All these people can be found on Scotlandspeople.

Andrew Allan and Jeanie Dalrymple were married in 1886 at East Pitkierie farm, Kilrenny. He was a carter, aged 30, son of Andrew Allan, carter, and Isabella Cumming. Jeanie Dalrymple was 26, daughter of Alexander Dalrymple, ploughman, and Margaret Band.

Andrew Allan senior and Isabella Cumming were married in 1853 at Elie. In the 1861 census they are living in the High Street and Andrew is a farmer of 13 acres. He was born in Elie in 1822 to Andrew Allan and Mary Cowie. Isabella Cumming was 44 in 1861, and was also born in Elie.

Alexander Dalrymple and Margaret Band were married in 1854 at Kingsbarns. In 1861 they are at Pitcorthie farm, Carnbee parish. Alexander Dalrymple is 35 in 1861, born at Ceres. His wife Margaret Band is 39, born at Kemback.

Harry

[NorrieG]

Hi Marylene These are inscriptions from Elie Cemetery with ALLAN
in them, photographs are available.also Andrew on 1881 Census

58   Andrew ALLAN farmer died 6.10.1895 age 73
   Wife Isabella CUMMING died 25.1.1882 age 66

59   another side of 58
                Isabella Cumming ALLAN eldest daughter of
    Robert F ALLAN died 30.7.1888 age 13
   his wife HELEN WHITE died 13.10.1937 age 84
   above Robert Forrester ALLAN died 8.3.1941 age 90
   
60   another side of 58
                their eldest son Andrew ALLAN
   died 15.7.1969 age 87
   wife Jane SCOTT died 6.12.1969 age 73

61   ANOTHER SIDE OF 58
                Jeanie DALRYMPLE died 30.11.1915 age 55
   husband Andrew ALLAN farmer died 9.10.1930 age 75

62   Alexander D ALLAN died at St. Ford Farm
   29.12.1950 age 56
   wife Margaret GLENCROSS died Dec. 1971 AGE 73?

63   In memory of William P RENNIE husband of
   Maggie R H D ALLAN died 27.12.1953 age 69

64   James ALLAN died at Elie 5.10.1958 age 66
   wife Isabella Cumming ALLAN died 5.1.1960 age 71

180   John Morris ALLAN died at Harvieston Elie
   13.6.1939 age 55
   wife Janet WILSON died 4.8.1964 age 82

182   My Husband William ALLAN
   died at Inverallan Elie 28.3.1931 age 73
   wife Jessie Greig Crombie LIDDEL died 15.5.1944 age 81

1881 census
   Dwelling:   20 Bank Street
   Census Place:   Elie, Fife, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203523     GRO Ref    Volume 427    EnumDist 3    Page 5
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Andrew ALLAN   M   58    M   Elie, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Farmer (Of 26 1/2 Acres Emp 1 Man)
Isabella ALLAN   M   65    F   Elie, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Andrew ALLAN   U   25    M   Elie, Fife, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Farm Servant
William ALLAN   U   23    M   Elie, Fife, Scotland
                Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Farm Servant


Norrie

[Marylene_G]

Wow, thank you very much for all these informations, this will advance my research greatly! 
For the sake of putting some meat (read background) on my research, is there any good historical/genealogy/cultural website out there about Elie and the surrounding region?
Or should I concentrate on the county itself, namely Fife?

Thanks again NorrieG and Hdw for these very useful pieces of info.
Have a great day everyone!
Marylene

(oh and sorry about that image posted breaching copyright, wasn't sure.... )

[Marylene_G]

Hi Marylene These are inscriptions from Elie Cemetery with ALLAN
in them, photographs are available..

Hello again NorrieG,

Sorry but I have just noticed what you wrote... do you mean photographs of those inscriptions are found somewhere on the web?
Marylene

[hdw]

Wow, thank you very much for all these informations, this will advance my research greatly! 
For the sake of putting some meat (read background) on my research, is there any good historical/genealogy/cultural website out there about Elie and the surrounding region?
Or should I concentrate on the county itself, namely Fife?

I doubt if there is any genealogical website solely devoted to Elie, but you can always put queries to the Fife Family History Society online.

If you Google Elie you will get lots of hits, including a Wikipedia article. Also, a book about Elie was published in 2008 by the Elie and Earlsferry History Society, c/o Elie Library, Siward Lane, Elie KY9 1AZ, Fife, Scotland. The book is by Archie Rennie, and the title is "The Harbours of Elie Bay: A History". Despite the title, it's about much more than just the harbours.

Harry

[hdw]

See  http://www.eliehistory.com/

Harry