James and Lucy BURKE 1870s

[majm]

From a SUBMITTED public tree at Ancestry (so it needs to be verified)

Lucy DYKE married James BURKE on 24 October 1870, at Coventry, England.

It seems to be GRO ref Vol 6d page 742 for Coventry Warwickshire, registered 4th Quarter of 1870.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Cheers,  JM

[Neil Todd]

Hi, In the 1871 census she is at home at Hill Street Coventry St John Warwickshire with Parents Thomas 49 and Hannah 47 (not much of a stretch) with brothers. Henry 14, Stephen 8 and sisters Catherine 12, Agatha 10.

I am sure I dont know how she was married and listed as single at the same time

But as Majm stated facts on ancestry trees need to be verified.

Still cannot reconcile first child 1877, there has to be a reason! I wonder if James left for other parts.

Neil

[Dundee]

Hi, In the 1871 census she is at home at Hill Street Coventry St John Warwickshire with Parents Thomas 49 and Hannah 47 (not much of a stretch) with brothers. Henry 14, Stephen 8 and sisters Catherine 12, Agatha 10.

I am sure I dont know how she was married and listed as single at the same time

But as Majm stated facts on ancestry trees need to be verified.

Still cannot reconcile first child 1877, there has to be a reason! I wonder if James left for other parts.

Neil

Lucy is enumerated as being married in 1871.  Obviously her married surname was not recorded so she has just been dittoed (is there such a word?) with the rest of the family.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Sorry I did not mention the Navy before but I just had a memory of it

 

James was born 02/02/1851 Coventry  Do you know if this is definitely correct?

From UK archives:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8362711&queryType=1&resultcount=39

   
Name    Burke, James
Place of Birth:    St Michael, Warwick
Continuous Service Number:    37328A
Date of Volunteering:    25 June 1866

Date:    02 February 1851

Catalogue reference:   ADM 139/774
Dept:   Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series:   Admiralty: Royal Navy Continuous Service Engagement Books
Piece:    37301A - 37400A

Even though it is not stated anywhere on the website, of the 4 records that I have downloaded from this record series the "Date" reference has always been their date of birth.

This record can be downloaded very cheaply from the above link.

Debra 

[majm]

Well Found Debra

Re St Michael/Coventry

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/CoventryStMichael/index.html

Cheers,  JM

[lyn22]

I was thinking that they did not start having children until 1877 so went looking for why.

I have found a James Burke arrived New Zealand 3rd march 1875 via ship India
he was single gives his place of birth as Cork Ireland and age as 23. The ship departed November 1874 and landed at Auckland. His occupation was given as a Currier.

This is from family search.
Digital Folder Number: 4412880  
Image Number: 00013

Now I dont know if it is even the right James but may explain why we cannot find him on Australian passenger lists.

Neil
I am not sure if this could be the right James but I have that he married Lucy in 1870 at Coventry so she may have came here on her own

[lyn22]

Hi there,

I read that Lucy's death was in 1900, and that James was 1901.  I am assuming that James was the informant or at least the source for the informant named on Lucy's d.c. and I hope that James would know his and her year/s of arrival in the Colonies. 

On several NSW d.c.s and on a couple of Qld dcs that relate to my own forebears, I have found that the informants must have been asked specific questions re each of the colonies.... eg on a 1893 d.c. (NSW) it gives me "2 years Victoria, 31 years Qld, 17 months NSW".

The online index for Vic deaths gives:  1900,  Lucy Burke, Hotham Vic, aged 49, dau of Thos Jos DYKE and Hanorah SMALLWOOD, Registration number: 9456

So the informant for Lucy's death knew not just Lucy's maiden name but also her mother's maiden name. 

Cheers,  JM
Thankyou I have Lucy's parents as Thomas Joseph and Ann Dyke nee Smallwood  so I will look at Hanorah Smallwood instead of Ann

[lyn22]

Sorry I did not mention the Navy before but I just had a memory of it

 

James was born 02/02/1851 Coventry  Do you know if this is definitely correct?

From UK archives:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8362711&queryType=1&resultcount=39

   
Name    Burke, James
Place of Birth:    St Michael, Warwick
Continuous Service Number:    37328A
Date of Volunteering:    25 June 1866

Date:    02 February 1851

Catalogue reference:   ADM 139/774
Dept:   Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series:   Admiralty: Royal Navy Continuous Service Engagement Books
Piece:    37301A - 37400A

Even though it is not stated anywhere on the website, of the 4 records that I have downloaded from this record series the "Date" reference has always been their date of birth.

This record can be downloaded very cheaply from the above link.

Debra  :)Thankyou so much for your time I will check this out

[majm]

Do you have the image of Lucy's death registration?

Cheers JM