Wigan marriage and death mystery

[joslevoi]

Hi All,

I have been searching for information about my g-g grandfather, John Jackson, who was born in Wigan in about 1834. I found him, a widower, in the 1871 and 1881 censuses in Manchester (Chorlton) with two children, Joseph (my g-grandfather) born 1863, and Jane, born 1865. The mystery is that I cannot find any record of his marriage to Mrs Jackson, (no idea of her name), nor any record of a death of a female Jackson, between 1865 and 1871, of about the right age. The children were both born in Salford, but whether John married in Wigan or the Manchester area, I cannot discover.

I would be so grateful for any information or suggestions anyone might have. Thanks, Jos Le Voi, Brisbane.

[Oreo]

If I have found the correct entry on 1871 census there are several children : Mary 1856, George 1859, Joseph 1863, Jane 1865, Martha Ann 1868.  All the children were born in Salford, except the youngest who was born in Gorton.  There is also a sister who is a widow, Phoebe Turner.   John was a hammerman for a smith.

If it is the correct entry then we can assume John's wife died between 1868 (possibly 1867) and 1871.

I think I have found the family on 1861 census at 81 West Union Street, Salford.  The wife's name is difficult to read: possibly Martha, Mary or Margaret, born about 1834 in Manchester.  John was a grammarman.  I assume the census taker misheard the word 'hammerman.'

[joslevoi]

Oreo,

Thank you very much; I think you may be onto something there. My grandparents remained in the Salford and Gorton areas until after ww2, and all the males were metal workers, blacksmiths, mechanics and engineers. I just wonder what had happened to little Martha Ann by the 1881 census, when I am pretty sure they were at living 33 Casson Street. Anyhow, I am very grateful. Jos.

[heatherjulie]

Found a marriage worth looking at
5th November 1854
Cathedral Church of St John the Evangalist,Salford, Lancashire
John Jackson of Ordsal Lane
Martha Beard of Union Street
Groom's father Harding Jackson
Bride's father George Beard
Witness Michael Jackson of 36 Durham Street, Mary Jackson of Thwartz
Married by James Wilding
Groom's parents recorded as dead.

[gortonboy]

there is a death for

Name Martha Jackson

 Registration district   Chorlton

County  Lancashire

Year  1870

Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar

 Age 37

Volume  8C

Page  463

[joslevoi]

heatherjulie and gortonboy, thanks very much for the info. I will follow all leads. Jos.

[Radcliff]

I am not sure if there is a connection here re the grooms address,

St Philip Salford,
7th of June 1882
George Jackson,aged 24,fireman,bachelor of 70 East Ordsall Lane
Matilda Hogg,spinster,aged 22,of 62 East Ordsall Lane
grooms father John Jackson,labourer
brides father John Hogg engine driver,
witness to marriage by banns
Thomas Norris and Fanny Norris,

[amram]

All this informations was already posted for you on another forum.

[joslevoi]

Been away for a few days. I would just like to thank everyone for all your help. Jos.