Author Topic: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up - COMPLETED.  (Read 1986 times)

Offline grandad39

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up - COMPLETED.
« on: Sunday 29 April 12 11:36 BST (UK) »
Could someone please look at the Willoughby Parish Register and check the Marriage record for:
24 April 1809 Jeremiah Tomalin and Ann Shaw.

I have it from an Ancestry search, but image is too feint to read the Parish of Jeremiah - looks like BILSON and the inserted word immediately thereafter.

Then, taking the Groom's Parish, can you see if his possible baptism date is there. I estimate this is 1772 from later Census records.- if its not too much trouble please?

Thanks, Eric
N.E.Doncaster\ Booker
N.Yorks\ Swale, Stamforth\Stamford
West Yorks-Thornhill\ Fisher.
Norfolk\Gibson.

Offline jim1

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,877
  • ain't life grand
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 April 12 21:47 BST (UK) »
Can you give the census Ref.No. as I can't see him at the moment.
The word after Bilson? says bachelor.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Offline grandad39

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 April 12 11:52 BST (UK) »
Jim there is no census link from the image I attached, of a Marriage in 1809.


I just gave the groom's DOB as about 1772, based on my calculation from his age shown as 89  in the (1841) census. That census was for Sawbridge I seem to recall, but I have not a copy since it did not form part of my records.

I just gave the date so you would have some idea which years to look through -ie 1772 +/- say 5 and if not successful, say a few more.

I hope that helps.
Eric
N.E.Doncaster\ Booker
N.Yorks\ Swale, Stamforth\Stamford
West Yorks-Thornhill\ Fisher.
Norfolk\Gibson.

Offline jim1

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,877
  • ain't life grand
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 April 12 14:12 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census will tell you if he's called Tomalin or Tomlin,also if he was born in the County or not.
There's no such place as Bilson but it may be Bilston in Staffs.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


Offline grandad39

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 April 12 18:15 BST (UK) »
Jim

The 1841 census is ref H0/107/1138/23

the record I believe is for my man, the left hand page bottom 3 records.
However, here he is originally transcribed as Jany Tomlin but this clearly says in the original: Jerry
he is there with wife Ann and stepson Noah Shawd which should be SHAW, from Ann's earlier marriage.

Notwithstanding here the surname is TOMLIN, everywhere else it is TOMALIN.

There you see all 3 were born in the county.

The marriage of Jerry (for Jeremiah elsewhere) and Ann is the copy of PR for Willoughby that I attached to my first post. There the names are correct.
As to whether it is BILTON, BILSTON or BILSON in the Marriage record, that is what I was asking for a lookup of the original. then that will clear it up.

I hope this gives you the necessary information to help now please?

Eric

N.E.Doncaster\ Booker
N.Yorks\ Swale, Stamforth\Stamford
West Yorks-Thornhill\ Fisher.
Norfolk\Gibson.

Offline jim1

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,877
  • ain't life grand
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 April 12 19:57 BST (UK) »
I think you'd have to say it's Bilton just outside Rugby.It's in the general area where he was living.His death in 1843 gives an age of 69.
I've searched the PR's for Bilton but there are no Tomlins or Tomalin's there but the records only go up to 1775.
He may have been christened elsewhere or he may have been Catholic.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Offline grandad39

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 32
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 08:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Jim.

I will have to try a more global Warwickshire search then.

As to the option of being a Catholic: there were no signs of any later on, not on hiss marriage record. So perhaps not the reason for not being in your list.
Where you say the records stop at 1774, is that because they got lost/ destroyed, or that you just don't have them please?

Eric
N.E.Doncaster\ Booker
N.Yorks\ Swale, Stamforth\Stamford
West Yorks-Thornhill\ Fisher.
Norfolk\Gibson.

Offline jim1

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 24,877
  • ain't life grand
    • View Profile
Re: Willoughby parish Register - marriage look up
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 10:47 BST (UK) »
The records for Bilton are held at the War.CRO.Whether or not some are missing I don't know.Unfortunately you would have to go there & search them.Ancestry only has them up to 1775.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/