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Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« on: Sunday 29 April 12 08:55 BST (UK) »
Please help me if you can
Why was she(?) called Roose?
Did she marry "Edmund of Badington? Who was he?
Was she dau of John (1535-1575) and Joan Birle?
Did she have a third bro or just John and William
(IGI M062931)
Many thanks
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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 May 12 15:38 BST (UK) »
Could Roose be Rose?  :)

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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 May 12 16:10 BST (UK) »
Or could it be Rous?

And could Badington be Badingham, or Bedingfield?

There are several monuments to the Rous family in Badingham church of St John.

Pat ...

Thanks to Annes for bumping this one  ;)
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 09:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for helpful comments

Yes Roose could be Rose
But in my tree there are only 2 Rose Free and the name Rose only starts to be used after 1850.

Both Roose and Rous are liberally sprinkled in my tree - usually by marriage and dozens of each.
They seem to chop and change spelling randomly.
I suppose when all was done phonetically this is not surprising

Earlier than 1718, when Mary Rous was born to John + Mary in Westleton, Suffolk my knowledge is very vague.
She had 3 brothers
John b 1719
John b 1725
Thomas b 1727
The last 2 married and I have their descendants.
Mary herself died in 1721 and he name was given to a sister, Mary, born later that same year.


So if indeed there is any connection to ancestors
Edmund of Badingham b 23 July 1551 and my Roose Free (chr 17 Aug 1561 at Dallinghoo Dau of John Free + Joan Birle) I have no ideas how to begin to bridge the gap.

Yes it is almost certainly Badingham ( not ton).
Do you know anyone who might kindly look at the gravestones at St John's there for me?

Many thanks



PS
More info on Joan Birle who married John Free:
According to IGI M062931 this was on 8 Oct 1560 at Dallinghoo.
My Roose was not the only child. She had 2 brothers:
John Free chr 30 July 1569 Dallinghoo
William Free chr 8 July 1572 Dallinghoo
both of whose marriages and children are known
My Roose had also 3 sisters (Rebeccah, Brigett, Marye)

My studies of John Free, father of my Roose Free who married Joan Birle, show that he had 2 brothers and a sister:

Richard b abt 1538
(Who married Ann Gioldersleeve 18 Jan 1558 at St Matthew Ipswich and had dau Margaret who married Jhon Hacon on 2 Feb 1583 at Hacheson, Suffolk)

William b abt 1527
(Who married  Pyke on 1 Sep 1549 at St Mary Woodridge)

Agnes b abt 1540
(Who married Robert Edmunds in 1561 at Leiston)
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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 May 12 11:36 BST (UK) »
John Pope has transcibed Badingham church yard, however, I think your dates may be rather early for readable MIs to be found. 
There may be memorial plaques inside the church?

John's web site here
http://www.pope-genealogy.me.uk/badingham.htm

Simon's web site
http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/Badingham.htm

extra photographs can be seen here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisbey/sets/72157625845701391/

and here
http://www.britainexpress.com/attractions.htm?attraction=4871

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 08:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks Pat - amazig sites but no Rous(e) yet!

Maybe I should issue a general search appeal for Rouses

If anyone wants mine, I can offer about 200
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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 09:17 BST (UK) »
I founnd a GREAT site that has a by surname index of all the gravestone inscriptions within UK it has coppied (Yes, thousands of them)
Then I hit the wrong button and a "Speed test" was begun and unstoppable!
So I lost not only the site but all means to find it again!

Any ideas, please?
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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 May 12 19:09 BST (UK) »
The site you're looking for wouldn't be Charles Sale's www.gravestones would it? Esdel I hope you're the person I've searched the web for - you're very keen on the Benhall Rous family and especially interested in the double marriage there in 1809 and Betsy Rudd?
I've been researching this family for 20 years, I have quite a bit of information and a few ideas - love to hear from you

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Re: Roose Free chr 17 Aug 1561 Dallinghoo
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 May 12 22:00 BST (UK) »
BINGO, Suffolk Sue B.
Of one post - yet familiar!!!
Humm.......
Yes Charlie Sales - that is he! I remember now (now you told me!).

And well anyway, would you be talkin' of
Rouse Lettie or Thomas or Mary?
Or Rouse Ann who signs Anne
Or Rouse Thomas
Or John Howard, hubby of above Mary
Or Louisa Unknown, wife of Henry Blowers who is related to all my ancestors but not by blood to me!

Betsy Rudd ..... Humm.... makes you think... let me see now, the Wink comes to mind!........
Ah yes, Betsy Rouse (dau of John Rouse and Diana Wink) married a John Rudd on 23 March 1833 at Dunwich thus became your Betsy Rudd.

But so many other Rouseseses
I dunno where to start!

Looking for a marriage in 1809.....
     Diana Rouse+ William Hurren
abt then

     Hannah Rous + William Free
10 Dec 1812 Holy Trinity Middleton

     John Wink Rouse + Martha
about then

     John Rouse + Mary Noy
11 jan 1813 Theberton

     The Rouses of Wigfield had several children who could have married in 1809

AH - got it
Thomas Rouse (gt grandson of John) married Lettia Rous on
20 Jun 1809 at Benhall

Hannah Rouss + William Read  on
20 Oct 1806 Westleton Parish Church

Martha Rouse + Anthony Hurren on
27 Jul 1813 at Westleton



a Lettice Rouse says in 1851  census "Born at Benhall" age 61
Lettice was witness at (her elder sister's) Mary Rous wedding to John Howard at Benhall on 18 Oct 1803

HO107/1802 f649 p19
Benhall
Sarah ROUS, hd, wid, 91, annuitant, bn Blythburgh
Lettice Rous, relative, widow, 61, housekeeper, bn Benhall
Louisa NOLLER, relative, 13, bn Middleton
Margaret Rous, relative, 5, bn Westleton

Lettice was living with William NOLLAR , aged 35, a butcher, and several others of the same surname in Middleton in 1841. HO107/1016/5 f4 p2.


Her son James b 9 May 1813 Westleton married Caroline Wooler in 1855 (dau Margaret 1845)

Her dau Athelinda b 28 March 1810 WEstleton married William Nollar (son James Rous Nollar 1833; dau Louise Nollar 1837)
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