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Re: Dempsey Family , Wexford
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 June 12 20:47 BST (UK) »
I have him in my family tree on ancestry.co as Thomas Dempsey born 4th October 1878. He married an Anne Dwyer and they had two sons Patrick1906 and Jojn 1907.

Are you sure about that 1878 DOB? In the 1901 census Thomas Dempsey is stated to be aged 19 and the Wexford Town baptism register supports this - he was baptised on 26th May 1882.
Dalton: Wexford Town/Ireland
Curran: Ballyvaloo/Blackwater/Co Wexford/Ireland
Clowery/Farrell: Wexford Town/Ireland
Flood: Enniscorthy & Wexford/Ireland
Ormand/Kirwan: Blackwater/Co Wexford/Ireland
Shortman: Bristol/Westbury-on-Trym/Manchester
Trull: Uley/Dursley/Glos
Cross: Dursley/Glos
Hazard: Bristol/Manchester

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Re: Dempsey Family , Wexford
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 June 12 22:12 BST (UK) »
In Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Thomas Dempsey
Name:   Thomas Dempsey
Gender:   Male
Birth Date:   4 Oct 1878
Birth Place:   Wexford, Ireland
Father's Name:   Martin Dempsey
Father's Birth Place:   John Street
Mother's name:   Bridget Dempsey
FHL Film Number:   256018

This is what I found I believe this to be the correct one but I can appreciate what you have said

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Re: Dempsey Family , Wexford
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 June 12 23:32 BST (UK) »
This is what I found I believe this to be the correct one but I can appreciate what you have said

Careful - you have two primary records (the 1901 census and a baptism record) that contradict the DOB in the one record you refer to, that's not to say it's 'wrong' but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's "correct" in respect of the Thomas Dempsey referred to, i.e. the one in the 1901 census.

It's possible that the Thomas born in 1878 died in infancy and when another son was born in 1882 they named him Thomas as well. This happened in my Great Grandparents family in Wexford when a 'Patrick' died aged 6 months in 1890 and a subsequent son born in 1897 was then also named 'Patrick'.

Judging by the 1901 census Martin & Bridget initially had children on a regular basis (approx every two years) so if they married in 1877 you would have expected them to have had a child in approx 1878 (Thomas), 1880 (?) 1882 (Thomas) 1884 (Terence) 1886 (Mary) etc.

Below is the top of the page in the baptism register which confirms that 1882 is the date of the baptism I referred to. 
Dalton: Wexford Town/Ireland
Curran: Ballyvaloo/Blackwater/Co Wexford/Ireland
Clowery/Farrell: Wexford Town/Ireland
Flood: Enniscorthy & Wexford/Ireland
Ormand/Kirwan: Blackwater/Co Wexford/Ireland
Shortman: Bristol/Westbury-on-Trym/Manchester
Trull: Uley/Dursley/Glos
Cross: Dursley/Glos
Hazard: Bristol/Manchester

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Re: Dempsey Family , Wexford
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 June 12 17:38 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Well your way of thinking makes sense
This name repition has happened within the family because my grandmother had a set of Twins called Margaret and Bridget
Unfortunately Bridget died when she was ten yrs old and another girl child born later was given the name Bridget So i can see where you are coming from
I can see that its all too easy to jump to conclusions and fit the piece of info into the puzzle so to speak
Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
I will be more careful in future


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Re: Dempsey Family , Wexford
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 June 12 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hello again
You were quite right I have found another Thomas Dempsey born 1882 to Bridget and Martin Dempsey
that date ties in with the census of 1901 and 1911 :) :) :)
Many thanks again for all your help
Its so easy to pick up on something and slot it into your tree
I will be more careful next time