King Family, Lasswade

[Celts]

I am looking for any information on the King family who lived in the Lasswade area 1891/1901.
The family consisted of John King, Mary Ann King nee Coyne & Margaret Coyne Mother in Law. I have details of 1891 Census showing them living in Lasswade and John working as a Shale Miner also 1901 Census shows them living in School House, Lasswade and John now working as Coal Miner ( Rewer) with the children.
I have met a blank wall trying to trace family and any help will be very welcome.

Thanks

[MonicaL]

Hi Celts

When you say you have hit the wall, is that trying to go back to previous generations or forward with descendants?

Monica 

[ev]

Hi ,

There is a tree on Ancestry/Mundia
Later children are Martin(b.1905) , Peter(1907) , and Michael(1911)

ev

[Gadget]

Some previous info on this thread, if it helps:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,494608.0.html


gnu

[MonicaL]

Hi Peter

How about this entry for John's birth: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F54T-CX7

Monica 

[MonicaL]

...and John now working as Coal Miner ( Rewer) with the children...

I think this should be Hewer, see www.mininginstitute.org.uk/library/definitions/Hewer.html

Interesting resource here regarding the shale mining industry, see www.scottishshale.co.uk/index.html

Monica

[MonicaL]

Peter, what did it say on John's marriage cert regarding his parents, alive/deceased and occupation for his father?

I can see these birth entries to parents Stephen King and a Mary Tolan:

Laurence - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F52Y-3QY
Mary - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPYL-FVC

Probably just a co-incidence as this couple show in Scotland for 1881, but no John showing on the listing unfortunately:

Stephen King 50, Plater'S Lab. In Shipyard, b. Ireland
Mary King 46 b. Ireland
Laurence King 14 b. Ireland
Mary King 8 b. Ireland
Thomas Meallie 48 lodger, b. Ireland
Laurence Folan 26 lodger, b. Ireland

Address: 54 High St, Dumbarton

This couple show in Dumbarton right up to 1901.

Monica

PS: I am guessing the 1911 census entries didn't provide any clues of place of birth in Ireland....

[Celts]

Thank you for your thoughts & ideas on how to progress my search. I'm looking both back & forward in my search to try to identify where the family originate from & how the family moved about on arriving in Scotland in the late 1880's or early 1890's. I do have marriage certificate which shows John's parents as Stephen King & Sarah Folan both born in Ireland. Posts with information on Stephen King & Sally Tolan  or Mary Tolan are interesting & worth further checking to see if maybe a spelling error somewhere. On the Marriage Certificate both parents were shown as alive with occupation of Stephen given as Farmer. My thoughts on this occupation is it was more of a Smallholding than Farm he was involved in & a rented holding rather than owned. Mary Ann's father Michael Coyne was shown as deceased on the same Certificate.1911 Census still showed just Ireland & check of Church Marriage records were inconclusive as well. Same story when I visited Dublin. Very frustrating especially as it is such recent history & I am sure the family still live in the Edinburgh/Borders area.
Thank you again for your ideas any other information or ideas will be most welcome. Looks like I shall have to spend some time in Edinburgh on my next visit to UK & Scotland.