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E L Jay
« on: Friday 27 April 12 19:26 BST (UK) »
There isan E L Jay featured in the Liverpool (Waverley) phone book from the 30s to the 50s. I think he may have been a tailor with a business in Liverpool. How can I find out more about this person?

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Re: E L Jay
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 April 12 20:17 BST (UK) »
Well, I've looked to see if he was around in 1911, but can't see him.  Looked at Army, Emigration, Directories etc - no joy.  But... I have found an Edward Leonard Jay, who died 14 Dec 1940 in Liverpool.  He left £690 to his wife Mary Charlotte Jay.

Is this him, do you think?  Is he an ancestor?
Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens

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Re: E L Jay
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 April 12 09:49 BST (UK) »
My grandfather was an Edward Leopold (not Leonard) Johnson Jay, and he was a tailor, so I guess he may not be this man in Waverley.

I really only have four known facts about him.

He was born in 1871 in Insterburg, near Konigsberg in East Prussia (now Chernyakovsk, near Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave).

His partner (I have seen no wedding certificate) Eliza Dunscombe gave birth to my father in 1907 in London. However, my father's birth certificate gives the father's name as Edward Leopold Johnson (not Jay).

In the 1911 census they are all living in Newport, Monmouthshire and he has a tailoring business.

He was interned in WW1 and spent the war in various camps (prisons). He separated from Eliza soon after the war and seemingly vanished. It's just possible that he settled in Liverpool, which is why I'm checking the Waverley man out. By the way, the Waverley man stayed in the phone book until 1956 (perhaps Mary Charlotte Jay never changed the phone book entry).

Thank you for your interest.

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Re: E L Jay
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 April 12 10:03 BST (UK) »
It looks like Mary Charlotte remarried
Marriage
Mary C Jay
Charles H Fish
Mar qtr 1945
Liverpool
10d 572

Death reg

Mary C Fish
Mar qtr 1957
age 66
Liverpool south
10d 572

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: E L Jay
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 April 12 13:20 BST (UK) »
Kelly's Trade Directory lists Edward Leonard Jay as a tailor at 72 Seel Street in 1938, the year before he appears in the phone book at 15 Waverley Road (Tel no: Lark Lane 3229!). Just possibly my grandfather Edward Leopold Jay changed his middle name to Leonard to avoid anti-German feeling - he'd suffered enough of that in WW1.