Jones/Jackson

[monstermollie]

Hi

I am researching the Jones family from Flintshire, and have Benjamin Jones b 1814 married to Margaret ne Pain in September 1836.

Benjamin is believed to be the son of George Jones and Mary Conway.

 Benjamin is  found on the 1841 - 1861census  with his wife and family. 
In 1871 he is found with his wife and children and Robert Jackson, Elizabeth Jackson and richard Jackson - recorded as niece/nephew

I then looked at the Jackson children and it seems that they are the children of Robert Jackson b 1826 Liverpool and Ann  (marriage cert give her father as David Jones).  Robert and Ann were married in 1847.
Ann was born 1826.
On the 1851 census there is an Elizabeth Jones b Northrop 1841 recorded as neice. living with the Jacksons (which links her to Ann)
One of Robert and Ann's children Elizabeth Frances married Thomas B Taylor and on the 1891 census there is a record of Sarah E Jones b 1864 living with them as a housekeeper.

What I am trying to find out is the relationship between Ann jackson ne Jones  b 1826 to Benjamin b 1814

and also the relationships of Elizabeth Jones b 1841 and Sarah E Jones b 1864 to Benjamin's family - who were their parents etc and what are the links back to Benjamin.

I have a comprehensive record of Benjamin and his children - and their children, however, Ann/Elizabeth and Sarah E aren't part of benjamins children or their children.

IF I am right in that Benjamin was the son of George and Mary who married 20 Feb 1802 then there are other children
Ann 1806
Mary 1808
John 1810
Edward 1812
Elizabeth 1817
Girl 1818

I did think it  possible that Ann b 1841 could be the daughter of either John or Edward  BUT Ann's father on her marriage cert is given as David, and I haven't been able to find a David born to George and Mary

I cant add the Jacksons into my tree, until I can "prove" the link back to my "Jones's" and would really appreciate anyone elses thoughts on this.

Benjamin was born Flint, as was his chiildren
Ann was born Flint
Elizabeth born Northrop
and Sara E born Northrop

Grateful for any suggestons or information

Thanks
M

[wrjones]

I have Conway family from the Flint/Northop area;do you have any info about the Mary Conway?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

On the question of Benjamin Jones;Is his wife shown as being Mary in 1851 an error?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[despair]

I cannot currently see the Jackson connection but the following seems the most consistent family sequence to me which has a different 1871 connection

1841 1407  8/45 15
1851 2501 98 16
1861 1930 103 8
1871 5645 6 17
(1881 5506 41 8 ?)

Regards
Roger

[wrjones]

When I first looked at the entries for Benjamin Jones I thought he may have married twice seeing the Mary in 1851 but apparently her name is an error in 1851.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[monstermollie]

Sorry no other info re Mary Conway.  I found the information of her marriage to George Jones on familysearch. 

re connection between Jones/Jackson

Ann JONES married Robert Jackson

I am trying to link Ann Jones to Benjamin (and his family) as the Jackson children are recorded as nieces/nephews on the census living with Benjamin.
There are also other references to Jones's living with the Jacksons.

Unfortunately (for researching) in Wales Jones is a common name but I am sure I will make the connection eventually.

 

[wrjones]

I take it George and Mary Jones are not to be found on any Census?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[despair]

The 1871 census record for Benjamin and Margaret Jones is transcribed differently on the two major commercial data bases,one including the three Jacksons in the same household,one not.Have you assumed because of the different name that they are nephews/niece in the one case?The original document appears to have them as separate households and listed as daughter/sons in the separate household.
It could be interpreted that they are a separate unrelated family where the initial members have been missed off for some reason.This may be supported by the fact that their mother Ann and older(usually earlier listed)siblings are nowhere to be found on the 1871 census,whereas they do appear again on the 1881(RG11/5505/141/16?).The father Robert Jackson appears in Slaters Directory for 1859 running The Castle Inn,but it is possible the 1861 entry is genuinely missing.He dies in 1864.

Regards
Roger