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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #18 on: Friday 27 April 12 20:45 BST (UK) »
Well I think I've come to the end of the road I can find no record of any of them after 1930 except that Edith is staying at the Evangeline Hotel in Washington and working as a stenographer for the government.

I wonder what really happened to them  :-[

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 28 April 12 14:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Debbie,

Looking at the UK births, they were as below.  The SSDI is not showing anything for Jennie and only a few choices for Edith.

Ediths - Dobson  Edith Mary N     Bradford  9b 145  June 1910  Q2 (On Yorkshire baptisms the date is given as 2 March 1910)

Jennie - Dobson Jennie Beryl D    Bradford  9b 79  Dec 1908 Q4

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 28 April 12 14:59 BST (UK) »
Another alternative to check  (birth date the same)   ??? 

Edith M. Smith
2 March 1910 and died 2 March 2001
Last Residence: 80909  Colorado Springs, El Paso, Colorado,
SSN issued: New Jersey (1973-1974)

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 28 April 12 15:02 BST (UK) »
Vernal and Nellie appear in City Directories up to 1920 but can't see nothing later so far.


Hi Debbie, Sandra, and Shelly:

The Lawrence City Directories that I've seen usually indicate if a person (usually male if he had a family) died or moved out of town. The 1920 directory would cover addresses for the year 1919.

As for the Spanish Flu, it is a possibility but if Walter was born in 1920, at least his mother was alive. In Lawrence, all of the victims would have been recorded. Massachusetts was/is very thorough in those sorts of things.

As for where to look next:

The main cemetery in Lawrence is Bellevue Cemetery, which charges for look ups (scroll down the page for contact info and fees): http://www.cityoflawrence.com/bellevue-cemetery.aspx

Lots of people from Lawrence were buried in Elmwood Cemetery in the neighboring city of Methuen: http://www.cityofmethuen.net/index.php/home-mainmenu-1.html
The cemetery is administered by the Department of Public Works, but I couldn't find much info when I went to the DPW link.

There is the City Clerk's Office for possible BMD look ups (The Clerk's e-mail address is at bottom of the page. There may be a fee.) at http://www.cityoflawrence.com/city-clerk.aspx

Then there is the Lawrence Public Library at http://www.cityoflawrence.com/public-library.aspx. Click on Special Collections. There is info (including fees) and an e-mail link to the human person named in the info. Having done business with this person, I can vouch for his/her skills.

One last question: Is it possible that Thomas Dobson's family might have originated in Thornton (near Bradford)? Some of my Dobsons from Thornton moved into Bradford in the 1870s and 1880s. The Thornton connection would have been my direct ancestor Joseph Dobson (who incidentally married a Longwood from Bradford) and John Dobson.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o

ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts


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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 28 April 12 15:13 BST (UK) »
No such indication on this one John.

Lawrence City Directory 1920 which say for the year ending September 1921

Vernal (Nellie H) shipper  h 28 Pleasant  (same as 1920 Census)

Sandra :(

1919 same info - for the year ending September 1920
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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 28 April 12 15:30 BST (UK) »
John - Have you found more relatives in Yorkshire ???  This is the family in 1891  - 13 Henry Street. Thornton, Yorkshire, England


Walter Dobson 29 Cashmere Weaver. and
Mary Jane Dobson 28  (Maiden Name Fielding - September 1883 - Bradford. Yorks.)
George Harold Dobson 7 Vernie Dobson 5
Bertram Dobson 2  Edward Dobson 1 month

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 28 April 12 15:47 BST (UK) »
Uncle Fred and Aunt Jane made a return trip to the UK

Jane dadd  (thats how it was transcribed but it is clearly Budd) Gibson born abt 1878 and aged 72 years
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts to Liverpool, arriving 1st May 1950 on the New Foundland. Fred Gibson was aged 74 years and a poultryman. Going to 28 Marshfield Street. Bradford. Yorkshire.

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 28 April 12 16:18 BST (UK) »
Might be oa couple of entrioes to bear in mind for Jennie - she did show on the 1930 census as a patient at a hospital.

1929 City Directory - Ware Massachusetts -  Dobson Jennie B - student nurse - M S Hosp  r  do

Also City Directory entry in 1931 - Ware., Massachusetts.

Dobon Jennie B  - nurse - M S Hosp  r  do

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BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 28 April 12 16:31 BST (UK) »
Sandra, John

Thank you so much for this info it gives me something to chase.
John in answer to your question yes they definitely did originate from Thornton.  I have Grandfather Bertram, GG Walter, GGG grandfather Benjamin GGGG granfather John the tax collector.  Is your Joseph Benjamin's older brother?