Author Topic: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts  (Read 5890 times)

Offline Debbie1161

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 16
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 13:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra

I've just looked at the Edith married to Jack and I don't think this is her because it has her residence as Toronto Canada.

As for the other one I just don't know it's very confusing isn't it?

Am I right to assume that as there were so many deaths due to the Spanish flu that not all of them were recorded?

Debbie

Offline shellyesq

  • Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,092
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 15:06 BST (UK) »
I would expect the deaths were recorded normally, but there isn't anything comprehensive for Massachusetts deaths online between 1920 & 1970. 

Offline Debbie1161

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 16
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 15:19 BST (UK) »
Ok thank you

Offline shellyesq

  • Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,092
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 15:35 BST (UK) »
There's a mention of Walter Dobson attending high school in Chichester in 1932 here:  http://chichesternh.org/Public_Documents/ChichesterNH_WebDocs/TownReports/1932.pdf  Maybe you could try to see if Walter & his aunt and uncle are still there as of the 1940 Census.


Offline Debbie1161

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 16
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 16:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Shelley

Thank you so much for that it's nice to know he did ok after all he'd been through.  I've tried looking on the 1940 census but can't find him.

Debbie

Online *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,794
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 16:46 BST (UK) »
1891 Census for Murrow, Cambridgeshire, England shows Nellie, James and Jane Greenfield - (Birth Redg - Jane Bud Greenfield - Q 1 1877 Wisbech. Cambridgeshire. ) Jane is the Aunt of Walter Dobson.

Maurice Greenfield 38  and Eliza Greenfield 39
Jane Greenfield 14  Maurice Greenfield 13
Katherine Greenfield 12 James Greenfield 10
Edith Greenfield 8  Daniel Greenfield 7
Nellie Greenfield 5  Grace Greenfield 4
Alfred Greenfield 3  May Greenfield 10 months.

James Greenfield (17 Nov 1880 - December 1964 - Pennsylvania) brother of Nellie married Pricilla Fox  (July 1903 Yorkshire) and immigrated to the USA, Philadelphia Passenger List 7 September 1907 - Liverpool to Philadelphia.
There is a US passport application for Pricilla Greenfield 14 th April 1923. Passport includes a photograph.
There is a naturalizatiuon document for James Greenfield - 22 Ooctiber 1913.

Fred Gibson and Jane - Philadelphia passengher list April 1909 on the Haverford going to James Greenfield 661 E Thayer Street. Philadelphia.

Have briefly looked at a couple of others - Danzil/Daniel Greenfield also immigrated - appears on border crossings from Canada and 1910 Census Lawrence Ward 1, Essex, Massachusetts with a wife Mary.

Alfred Greenfield appears on the 1920 census Lawrence Ward 1, Essex, Massachusetts (immigrated 1900) with his wife Minnie and several children.

Charles Greenfield immigrated 1909 and is in Andover, Essex, Massachusetts for the 1920 Census with a wife Agnes.

Kathleen Greenfield with her husband George Longbottom and daughter Muriel appear on the 1910 Census Lawrence Ward 1, Essex, Massachusetts with parents Maurice and Eliza Greenfield and other Greenfield children.

George F Longbottom 33  Katherine Longbottom 31 Muriel C Longbottom 3
Maurice Greenfield 58  and Eliza Greenfield 58
Edith Greenfield 27 Alf Greenfield 25 May Greenfield 20
Ivy Greenfield 18 Charles Greenfield 16

Parents - Maurice and Eliza in 1920 North Andover Township, Essex, Massachusetts

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXY5-H48

Seems Thomas Dobson was heading for his father-in-law Maurice Greenfield when he arrived in 1910. Father listed as Walter Dobson. 52 Tile Street. Bradford.
Let us know if you require more to come forward on the Greenfields in Massachusetts.
Cannot see any other Dobson connections to the USA at the moment.


Sandra

BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline shellyesq

  • Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,092
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 April 12 17:14 BST (UK) »
There are some other marriage records that appear to be Nellie's siblings here:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0lgw/

Offline Debbie1161

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 16
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 08:36 BST (UK) »
Sandra and Shelley

Thank you so much for ALL of this information it is much more than I hoped for and a lot of information to absorb.

Many thanks

Debbie

Online *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,794
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: HELP - Thomas Vernal Dobson Massachusetts
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 09:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Debbie,

More small pieces to fit to the jigsaw, glad to have helped.

Sandra  ;)
BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada