Help with my searches please

[jim1]

Marr:
Thomas Trott of Takeley=Sophia Chapman.Jan. 20th.1818,Elsenham Essex
Ch:Sophia Chapman/Sept.18th.1796.Elsenham/parents:James & Phoebe.

jim

[jim1]

Sophia Chapman siblings:
Hannah ch.1799
Mary ch.1801
Sarah ch.1804
All Elsenham
Marr:
James Chapman=Phoebe Phillips/Nov.17th. 1795,Elsenham.
Ch:
James Chapman/Dec.3rd 1775/Elsenham/parents/John & Mary.

[Gary West]

Further help if possible please:

Peter West
Born - Bow brickhill, Buckingham christened or born 8th October 1837

Have found Mothers name as SUSANNA and would like to know maiden name
Christening shows no fathers name, but I have the Fathers name as JOHN WEST
Would also like to see details from 1851 census of the family, location, occupants etc, probably still in Buckingham somewhere.

Thanks

[Ladyhawk]

Peter West Bow brickhill, Buckingham christened or born 8th October 1837

Would also like to see details from 1851 census of the family, location, occupants etc, probably still in Buckingham somewhere.

1841 Bow Brickhill Buckingham
Susan West 25 Lace Maker
Nathaniel 5
Peter 3
Amelia 1

1851 Bow Brickhill HO107; Piece: 1723; Folio: 116; Page: 18;
Susan Chambers Head Mar 37  pauper bobbin lace maker
Nathaniel 15
Peter 13 Ag LAb
Amelia 11 Straw Plaiter
Bendegt son 9
Tamer 5
Elijah 4
William 1
All born Bow Brickhill Buckingham

Marriage Mar 1850 Newport Pagl.
Susannah West to John Chambers

Death
Susannah Chambers
Sep 1852 Newport Pagnell

Having difficulty finding the children in 1861 

Obtaining a child's birth certificate would give you their mother's maiden name
(Bow Brickhill is in the registration district of NP)

Peter Samuel West
Sep 1837 Newport Pagnell vol 6 page 278

Amelia West
Sep 1839 Newport Pagnell page 6 vol 364

Tamer West
Dec 1844 Newport Pagnell vol 6 page 370 

Elijah West
Mar 1847 Newport Pagnell vol 6 page 418

[Gary West]

  massive thanks

[Ladyhawk]

You are welcome 

Possibly Susanna West was not married the only way to know for sure is obtaining birth certificate to see if a father is named

Susannah's marriage to John Chambers should indicate if she was previously married

Peter & Nathaniel West
8 Oct 1837 Bow Brickhill Buckingham
Mother Susanna West NO father named

Ebenezer Bendgio, James, Elijah & William WEST
Christened 26 Aug 1849 Bow Brickhill Buckingham
mother Susannah West NO father named

Wonder if James should be Tamer 

There's also this one

Pamillia West
16 Jun 1833 Bow Brickhill
mother Susanna West NO father named

[Gary West]

Being a novice at this, I would love some direction on the above information.

Aside from obtaining childrens birth certs, I'm wondering how easy it would be to try and ID a Father or Fathers here.  Seems the Fathers name is absent from most records, including some I found independantly. 

I have Peter Wests marriage records
14th July 1861 St Philip the Evangelist, Arlington Square, Islington
Father shown as John West

Given above - Susan married John Chapman in 1850 (11 years before Peters wedding) would it therefore be likely, that this is the same John mentioned on the wedding cert by used the West name to make things look less unacceptable? 


Next question is - given Susan married in 1850 (John Chapman) the 1851 census shows her as HEAD and again no male reference??  Was she a 1800's bunny boiler lol!!!


EDIT:  Looks like we posted responses at the same time 

[Gary West]

Given the uncertainty of the Fathers and therfore that blood line, I'd love to know more about Susan/Susanna and her parents, location etc.

Thanks

[Ladyhawk]

I have Peter Wests marriage records
14th July 1861 St Philip the Evangelist, Arlington Square, Islington
Father shown as John West

So Peter West married Louisa Trott he seems to have had a middle name CHARLES,
first son also named Charles

1871
Peter 33 Bow Brickhill
Louisa 36
Charles 9
Thomas 7
William 5
Lousia 4
George 2
Walter 3 months

1881c he's name CHARLES

Charles West 43 bow Brickhill Labourer
Lousia 46
Charles 19
Thomas 17
William 15
Lousia 14
George 12
Walter 10
Emma 7
Philip 4
Naomi 2

1891 census Peter has the middle initial ‘C’
Peter C Bow Brickhill
Louisa 55
Charles 29
William 26
George 21
Walter 19
Philip 15
Naomi E

Susan married John Chapman in 1850

Susannah West married John CHAMBERS not CHAPMAN