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Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« on: Tuesday 17 April 12 17:59 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

I'm trying to locate the marriage of my G G Grandfather John Thompson, born 1791 in Elsdon.

I have the marriage cert. of his son William, married 1861 which states he was deceased at the time of the marriage, and occupation as Tailor.

I have located him on the 1851 census, and condition is widowed.

The 1841 census lists his children, but neither him or his wife. The youngest child
is 2, so probably think Mrs Thompson died between 1841 & 1851.

Any help to find his wife will be greatly appreciated.


Rumney, Thomas, Thompson, Mellia/Malia, Kane
Northumberland, Durham, Scotland, South Yorkshire, Ireland

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 18:19 BST (UK) »
John Thompson is quite a common name and therefore the information you have given is not sufficient to find his wife.

What you could do is

1. You say the youngest child is 2 in 1841. if you are sure this is a child of your John Thompson you could get that childs birth certificate, or any other child born post 1 July 1837, and it should give the mothers name and maiden name. It would then be easier to look for the marriage.

2. If you don't want to go down that road you could look for the baptisms of all the child on the familysearch website and if they are there this will at the least give the mothers first name (may in rare caseses also give her maiden name)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 18:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestions.  I did think of getting the child's birth cert. when I sent for the above marriage cert, but not having the mothers name, and the child's name is Margaret Thompson, wondered if I would get the correct one.

Going to try both options........ fingers crossed.

Thanks again
Rumney, Thomas, Thompson, Mellia/Malia, Kane
Northumberland, Durham, Scotland, South Yorkshire, Ireland

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 19:37 BST (UK) »
Was your Margaret born in Elsdon ?

Margaret Thompson

baptism/christening date: 17 Jan 1839
baptism/christening place: ELSDON,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND

father's name: John Thompson
mother's name: Margaret
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.


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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 19:48 BST (UK) »
If they were living in Elsdon then this is a possible death for the mother (Rothbury covers Elsdon).

Deaths Jun 1842   
 
Thompson  Margaret    Rothbury  25 260

Although there does not appear to be a birth registration for the daughter
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 20:35 BST (UK) »
Yes, all the children appear to have been born in Elsdon, and the baptism dates tie in for Margaret.  Is that unusual for the child not to be registered?

Many thanks again, will now look for the marriage.

Rumney, Thomas, Thompson, Mellia/Malia, Kane
Northumberland, Durham, Scotland, South Yorkshire, Ireland

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 22:04 BST (UK) »
As that was in the early days of registration there would be quite a few that were not registered.

I see there appear to be several John Thompson \ Margaret couples so it could be tricky.

Might be worth asking if anyone has access to the Elsdon parish registers and can do a lookup for the marriage there for you. The marriages for Elsdon on familysearch only appear to go up to 1812 which is too early
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for the suggestions.  Quite new to this site, so who/where do I ask if anyone has access to the Elsdon records.

Thanks
Rumney, Thomas, Thompson, Mellia/Malia, Kane
Northumberland, Durham, Scotland, South Yorkshire, Ireland

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Re: Marriage of John Thompson born Elsdon 1791
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 01:42 BST (UK) »
You just wait for someone like me to read the thread and volunteer  ;D

I'm off to the archives tomorrow and, as it happens, will be looking at Elsdon anyway.

I'll see if I can find out anything and report back

Christine