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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 05:54 BST (UK) »
Hello, My grandmother was Sarah Anne Ashton, daughter of Sampson and Rachel, I would appreciate anything that someone might have that would lead me back before Sampson and Rachel -- Many Thanks Ted

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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 03:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Arron,
Yes I guess we are related, I was born and live in New Zealand and have spent about 20yrs searching for records of our extended family, however the last ten years I have done nothing more. I was contacted by my Grandfathers, Brothers, Grandaughter who I have never met as she was searching the same line and looking for details of Sampson Ashton. This lady lives in the UK and is a retired Radiographer. Her email started me thinking about this and I found your chat on Rootschat a site I have never used before and It took me a little while to work out how to answer you.
Details of Sampson are very scarce and I have no living relatives with any interest who I can ask.
I do not subscribe to Ancestry.com but did use the site in the early days when it was free and also used Genealogy.com in that way.
I have found the LDS site very usefull as well.
Thanks for your prompt reply.  Kind Regards  - Ted.

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 13 September 12 22:22 BST (UK) »
Pleased to meet you Ted, this family has been extremely hard to unpuzzle. There are many people with similar names in the area from both the Ashton & Higgenbottom family. I think it comes down to how you wish to interpret all the findings in this post because one could really pick any option. My opinion is that Sampson Ashton was the son of Sampson Clayton and Amy Ann Ashton. What happened to his mother is another story and why he apparently changed his name is another mystery altogether. However, what we do know is Sampson & Rachel Higgenbottoms first son Thomas stayed in England with Rachel Higgenbottoms family (sisters) in Glossop. Best wishes, Aaron

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 15 September 12 00:36 BST (UK) »
Aaron

Haven't made it to the Cemetery, we have had a lot of rain this summer...

Did you manage to get the wil ?

elzabels


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« Reply #40 on: Friday 22 March 13 09:39 GMT (UK) »
There was a Sampson ASHTON arrived in Lyttelton, Canterbury, New Zealand, on the Clontarf, 15 Sep 1859. He joined the Old Colonists' Association on 17 Nov 1921, at that time living in Albert Road, Northcote Point, Auckland.

He stated in his application form that he was born in Lancashire in 1828 and arrived on the Clontarf in 1857. However, the Clontarf did not come until 1859 - and he and an Alice ASHTON are shown as aged 22 & 21. This is 10 years younger than he was, or the hand-written manifest has been misread. However, assisted immigrants had to fit certain criteria and often "adjusted" minor details like age.

In the 1881 electoral roll Sampson was a labourer living in Creyke Street, Christchurch. In the 1893 and 1896 Electoral Rolls Sampson (labourer) was living with George (a cooper) at 36 Creyke Street, Christchurch. In 1911 he was a miner at the Moonlight Mine in Greymouth.

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« Reply #41 on: Sunday 21 April 13 11:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks 'rip 1944' for the leads on the Old Colonists Association. Are these records held at the Auckland Library? Just about to head there next week and would be great to have a look for it. Many of the details of his life I believe were fabricated. His age changed more often than any other person I've ever researched.

Found this book on the Clontarf's two journeys to be very interesting & informative:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/books/nonfiction/genealogy/auction-584479305.htm

Auckland “New Zealand Herald” Obituary:
Sampson Ashton 1828 - 1921 who lived under the reign of five Sovereigns:
George IV 1820 - 1830
William IV 1830 - 1837
Victoria 1837 - 1901
Edward VII 1901 - 1910
George V 1910 - 1936
died at the residence of his daughter, Mrs Rachel Hayson, Birkenhead, on Wednesday 13 December 1921, after a brief illness. He was born ninety-three years ago at Chissell, Lancashire, England. He was in the service of the N.Z. Railways and considered he was one of the oldest locomotive drivers in N.Z. He was employed as engineer on the San Prisco mail steamer City of Nebraska in the early Auckland days, and in a similar capacity on the old H.M.S. Challenger, which made a scientific expedition to many parts of the world. “H.M.S. Challenger Expedition a famous British expedition, to study physical and biological conditions in deep sea. 1872-76 Results fill 50 Vols.” He recalled an occasion when he drove the locomotive on which the late Queen Victoria journeyed from King’s Cross to Liverpool. The Queen remarking to him in those pioneering days of the “iron horse” that he was a young man to hold such a responsible position as driver of the engine. After retiring from the railways 30 years ago he developed an enthusiasm for prospecting for gold, and for long periods he prospected alone on the alluvial deposits of Moonlight Creek and at Ahaura, near Greymouth. He was a warm admirer of the late Mr R.J. Seddon whose old age pension scheme he estimated as a considerable blessing to the old folk. He resided at Birkenhead from 1915 and his wife predeceased him fifteen years ago. Mr Sampson Ashton is survived by 3 daughters: Mesdames Alfred Hayson and Fred Pugh senr, of Birkenhead, and Mrs Agnes Williamson of Christchurch, two sons, Mr Thomas Ashton, of Western Springs, Auckland and Mr George Ashton of Christchurch, and a large number of Grandchildren and great grandchildren. The interment took place at the Birkenhead Anglican cemetery yesterday afternoon, the Rev. J. Lawrence Greer performing last rites.

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 21 April 13 20:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Aaron: better than that:

Go onto the Auckland Library website and search for NZMS 493 here: http://goo.gl/t4xyt you can download a pdf copy of the actual register.

I am currently working through it to transcribe it better than that already offered and have had some valuable finds.

And thank you for your further insight.

Cheers
Robert