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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 05 May 12 15:09 BST (UK) »
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Amy Ann Ashton, wife of William Ashton (a painter) died of Consumption at age 32 on 17 Aug 1841 at Wellington Road South, Stockport First.
The death was probably at Stockport infirmary

William ASHTON ( Painter) can be found on the 1841 census at H107 113 6, Wellington Road South
The enumerators patch started at Wellington Road Bridge, 'up' Wellington Road South right into Greek Street ( the hospital is at this junction) to King Street then Daw Bank ( now the bus station)  back to the Bridge!

( Wellington Road South is the main road, A6,  running through the town with mixed property along its route, some is still there to day, terraces!

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 05 May 12 15:32 BST (UK) »
The Amy Ashton death in 1841 is the better match to Sampson's Granny than his mother.
You are the only one who can see the figures on that; is it clearly and absolutely a 3 and not a 5?

ho107/ 113  bk 13 fol 13 page 28 (low on lhs)

Amy Ashton   30
Sumson Ashton   2

HO107/114; Bk6; F 5; P3
William Ashton   54
Amy Ashton   50




I wonder if William Ashton and Amy are the parents of Amy who gave birth to Sampson. :-\  He could possibly be illegitimate and when he gave his fathers name at marriage he used that of his grandfather.

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 05 May 12 23:50 BST (UK) »
Well something that puzzling wouldn't surprise me at this stage. Sampson Ashton's origins have always been very much a mystery and it may have been why they moved around the area so much and perhaps why he left with Rachel Higgenbottom and their son Thomas Henry to live in New Zealand.

Do you think that its possible the William Ashton mentioned on Amy Ashton's Cert is more likely her father who's wife was also Amy. There must be a Marriage of her parents and her birth record from 1809?

By the way, I also have researched Sampson Clayton's family in the mean time. If anyone is interested I could add the info. It seems likely that they are descendents of Ralph Clayton & Helen/Ellen Swan Married 7 Apr 1729 in Hartington, Wirksworth, Derbyshire who moved to Stockport / Glossop area.

Also have Rachel Higgenbottoms ancestry back to James Higginbotham of Glossop who Married Hannah Beard of Glossop on 6 May 1739. Atleast, this lineage is assuming the family were attending St Mary`s Independent Chapel Charlesworth and were residing in Glossop the whole time.

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 06 May 12 00:48 BST (UK) »
Before you go any further, I think you should look at the marriage entry for the marriage of Sampson CLAYTON to Ann WATERHOUSE in 1846.

This will show his status at the marriage, i.e Bachelor / widower, once you know this you can then deal with either looking for an earlier marriage to an Ann ASHTON, or speculate that Sampson maybe illegitimate, ..... I think this is unlikely as he was taken in by grandparents


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« Reply #22 on: Monday 07 May 12 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi I got your message in my post the other day SAMPSON ASHTON married my great x 2 grandmother Elisa Sarah's sister Rachel , their son Thomas was left behind with her sisters till he also emigrated later on. I have a little on the Clayton's somewhere that I looked up many years ago which I will try and dig out....not sure where I put the stuff when I moved a couple of years ago .... I am also in contact with some of Rachel and Sampson's  descendants in New Zealand (also on Facebook)

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 13:13 BST (UK) »
3rd May 1846 St Michael's ashton Under Lyne,
 
Sampson Clayton, full age, Bachelor, Printer, abode at time of marriage Ashton
Father Wiliam Clayton, Printer

Annie Waterhouse full age, Spinster of Ashton
Father Joseph Waterhouse, Stonemason

Both made their mark

Witnesses Thomas Grimshaw and William Armitage.

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 09 May 12 11:21 BST (UK) »
Sampson Clayton Marriage (/Intent?) Jul-Sep 1855 in Hayfield, Glossop (7b,pg789) (most likely Sampson Ashton & Rachel Higginbottoms intention to marry in Rachels home town!). They married on 29 Dec 1856 at St. Mary’s Church, Cheadle, Cheshire. Both Rachel and Sampson were living in Brinksway, Stockport at the time. Their first son Thomas Henry Ashton was either born/bap Jan-Mar Qtr 1857 in Stockport &/ born/bap Jul-Sep 1857 in Glossop. They left him with the Higginbottom sisters in Glossop however and in the census' he was said to have been born in Glossop.


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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 09 May 12 19:44 BST (UK) »
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St. Mary’s Church, Cheadle, Glossop, Derbyshire

St Mary's Cheadle is in Cheshire as is Brinksway....

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/churches/cheadle-st%20mary.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary's_Church,_Cheadle

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Re: ASHTON - Cheadle
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 12 May 12 23:44 BST (UK) »
Have been slowly wading through all the William Ashton Census records. The most intriguing is the

1841 where he is also a Painter (like Amy Ashtons death cert). They were living seperately, he in Macclesfield, Stockport, about 12kms away for Cheadle. Strangely he was living with 15 yr old Elizabeth Wilson & his apprentice John Beswick who's age I cannot read.

1851 Census, assuming he's the only single one, was living in Cheadle, Stockport with his sister Ann & niece Fanny as a cotton mill manager born in Stockport.

1861 Census, assuming he's the only single one, was living in Heaton Norrris with his sister Ann (age 63) & brother Joseph (age 67) as a gas regulator manufacturer born in Stockport.

Can't find any that say he is a widow however because he is always head of household. It is entirely possible that he remarried and changed profession after Amy's death. There is one census of Cheadle where he was living with John & Sarah Toping and married to his daughter Elizabeth with John's grandchildren Joseph (age 6) & William (age 4). William is a factory hand & they married in 1849 in St Mary, Cheadle, Stockport.

Other marriages before 1851 census:
1841 ASHTON  William BILLINGTON Martha Stockport, St Mary Stockport
1841 ASHTON William WHITTINGHAM Alice Stockport, St Mary Stockport
1843 ASHTON William PINDAR Jane Stockport, St Mary Stockport
1844 ASHTON William Marvel HOBSON Catherine Stockport, St Mary Stockport
1844 ASHTON William BARLOW Sarah Ann Cheadle, St Mary Stockport