William George INGRAM

[rosball]

Arthur Charles Ingram served in WW2.   

 INGRAM ARTHUR CHARLES : Service Number - WX700 : Date of birth - 08 Oct 1906 : Place of birth - BANGALORE INDIA : Place of enlistment - NORTHAM WA : Next of Kin - ROWAN ELIZABETH

cheers,
  Ros

[rosball]

Arthur Charles Ingram died at age 80 in 1987
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00087308

cheers,
   Ros

[Aussie1947]

Hi,

You could email the National Archives of Australia and find out the costs etc of getting a copy of William George Ingram's WW2 records, I have done this in the past.

http://www.naa.gov.au/

Gerry

[rosball]

I can't find a marriage for Arthur Charles Ingram in W.A.  http://www.wamarriage.info/   (but nor can I find Elizabeth's remarriage)

On ER he is living by himself as a storekeeper in Kweda, Beverley, W.A. from 1949 - 1980

cheers,
   Ros

[cando]

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=737386#summary1
NOK is Elizabeth ROWAN who appears to be the wife of George William ROWAN, Brookton.

Australian Electoral Roll
1943  NT
INGRAM Arthur Charles  Pine Creek  Carpenter

1943 WA
INGRAM Arthur Charles  C/- G W Rowan, Brookton  Labourer
ROWAN George William  Brookton  Railway Employee
ROWAN Elizabeth May  Brookton  HD

Cheers
Cando

[HysterySleuth]

Dear rosball, deeiluka, SASHAR, and cando!
You've really helped me out, and I thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
At the end of last week, all I knew was that my granddad's brother had passed away of a fever somewhere near the Cape, enroute from India, and that after the 1911 census I had no idea what happened to his wife and children.
This is amazing. I'd sure like to discover more details. How sad that William and Florence lost their boys. i hope some children lived.
Wonder what William was doing in Western Flat. And do you think there were 2 Arthur Charles Ingrams, one in WA and one in NT? Or since 1943 is while he is in the service, might he have registered himself while stationed in NT? Still the carpenter thing is odd, unless that is what the army had him doing. 

[cando]

Perhaps his service file will help answer your questions.

For a small fee you could purchase the Funeral Application form for Arthur's funeral.
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/ResearchAndGenealogy/FuneralApplicationForm.aspx

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

It would appear that Elizabeth May INGRAM did not marry Geo Wm ROWAN.

Her burial is in the name of INGRAM aka ROWAN.

http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00023230

Australian Electoral Roll - possibly Elizabeth, son and 'partner'
1931, 1936, 1937
ROWAN Arthur Charles  Argus Street, Narrogin  Labourer
ROWAN George William  Argus Street, Narrogin Labourer
ROWAN May  Argus Street, Narrogin  Married

1943 already posted

1954
ROWAN Elizabeth May  Kweda  HD
ROWAN George William  Brookton  Handyman

1958
ROWAN Elizabeth May  Kweda  HD
ROWAN George William  Kweda  Handman

In 1963 she was on the electoral roll with address Kweda.

Deaths
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

ROWAN Elizabeth May
District Perth  82 years  Parents Unknown  Reg#3800

ROWAN George William
Father Benjamin  Mother Anne
District Perth  73 years  1959  Reg#1573      

Cheers
Cando

[HysterySleuth]

Hmmmm It would help to find emigration/immigration to find
When did Elizabeth and the boys go to Australia?
Did they have the girl Annie Champion Ingram with them?
Were they in the company of GW Rowan?
Was Elizabeth a Rowan?

The AKA Ingram is in keeping with Scottish law and custom, even if she had not had children named Ingram, she'd be listed as both.  Another cousin who died in Perth, although they had no children at all, was (death) registered as both her maiden and married surname.

What I would find more curious is that Elizabeth May seems to have completely shed her maiden name of Champion. I had heard (it was just presumed?) that after the 1911 census, she went with the children to live with her family in England.  Wonder if there is any truth to that?
Australia is/was the land of new beginnings, right?
The other son was in SA, so I wonder which area they first went... or even if they went together.
It is truly said that one answer only leads to many more questions.
Onward....