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Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« on: Sunday 15 April 12 21:56 BST (UK) »
Looking for any information about Joseph and Bella Stirling living in Greenock approx 1915.  Bella was born in Coleraine, Northern Ireland about 1895. Thank you

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 April 12 22:12 BST (UK) »
Hi tofrek

Is there also a connection to Lanarkshire (as you've posted this in the Lanarkshire board, whilst Greenock is in Renfrewshire).

Do you have a maiden name for Bella (who could be for eg, Isabella)?

What about Joseph, any more details on him such as pob and age?

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 April 12 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello. Sorry about that. Wrong board.  I have just discovered an address at 15 Gilmour Street, Greenock for Joe and Bella (don't know if this is short for Isabella but it was always Bella in the papers I have seen) in 1927.  Her maiden name was Moon.

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 April 12 23:03 BST (UK) »
A basic search on Scotlands People has one match for a male Stirling to female Moon marriage in 1896 but does not match to it being a Joseph or Isabella so perhaps they married in Ireland

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 April 12 23:53 BST (UK) »
I see her birth was registered as Bella MOON, Coleraine , Sep Qtr 1895

In Irish Census 1901 with her parents & 7 siblings and again in 1911.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

The Ireland Civil  Marriages Index, has :
Bella MOON
Joseph STIRLING
Coleraine - Sep Qtr 1920
Vol 1, page 767

So they were not married until 1920.
Unlikely perhaps to be in Greenock in 1915?

What information  are you after concerning this couple?
Do you already know more abt Joseph? Or their children (but don't mention any details of living/possibly living people here!)

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 April 12 00:17 BST (UK) »
There is a death on SP that may be worth following up
Surname------------Stirling
forename-----------Bella
other name--------Moon
she died in 1955 in Greenock
Elaine
added
the birthyear for this Bella is 1895 +/- 1 year
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 April 12 01:14 BST (UK) »
just wondering if Joseph may be went from Greenock to Ireland to marry Bella
as there is a family living in Lauriston street (not far from Gilmour street)
on the 1901 census
fathers name James Stirling born Ireland mothers name Margaret ? born Ireland
also other children
Margaret, Mary, Annie, Lily and James

there is also a death on Sp
Surname---------Stirling
forename---------Joseph
birthyear---------1895
he died in 1968
Elaine
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 April 12 01:36 BST (UK) »
possibly Josephs parents with one daughter Margaret on 1891 census
living Belville street Greenock
again close to Gilmour street
gives both parents place of birth as Co/ Derry
both aged 27 which would give them a birthdate of around 1864
I really think you would need to obtain a copy of the deaths certs
to make sure this is the right family
Elaine
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Bella and Joseph Stirling of Greenock
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 03:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you for responding. Very helpful information
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