Grattan in Wishaw

[Swally]

Hi, looking for info on this family.
I have them on the 1881 Census and the 1891 but can't find them after this,
I would also like any info before these dates too.

1891 Census

141 Cambusnethan Street, Wishaw

Edward Grattan - Head - 33- Coalminer - Ayrshire - Girvan
Margaret           - Wife  - 35 -                   Lanarkshire - Rutherglen
John                  - Son  - 14 - Coalminer   Lanarkshire - Wishaw
Andrew              - Son -  12 - App Tailor   Lanarkshire - Wishaw
James                - Son - 10 - Scholar       Lanarkshire - Wishaw
Edward               - Son - 6  - Scholar        Lanarkshire - Wishaw
Mary                   - Dau - 1                       Lanarkshire - Wishaw

Ta,

Swally

[Lodger]

To save repetition on this thread, this is what I have already sent Swally by P.M.

Re: Cambusnethan burials -
Looks like you're in luck. The records I have finish at 1917 so can't help with the 1937 burial but this is what I found.

The lair is E379. I found 3 internments but there will be more (Margaret McMenemy should be in there).

EDWARD GRATTAN, coalminer, Cambusnethan, aged 15 years, unmarried.
Parents - Edward Grattan & Margaret McMenemy.
Interred 8th December 1898.

EDWARD GRATTAN, miner, Cambusnethan, aged 42 years, married.
Parents - John Grattan & Agnes Hamilton.
Interred 18th September 1899.

ANDREW GRATTAN, Chapel, aged 1 year & 7 months.
Parents - John Grattan & Mary Murray.
Interred 28th December 1907.

Also found this one in the common ground register, no obvious connection apart from the name but it must be the same family I think.

STILLBORN MALE GRATTAN, Wishaw.
Parents - John Grattan & Agnes Ross.
Interred 25th April 1874.

Just checked the IGI,
THOMAS GRATTIN. Born 20th march 1855 at Kilmarnock.
Parents - John Grattin & Agness Hamilton.
If you can connect this birth to your family the 1855 certificate will give you all the extra information because it was the 1st year of statutory registration.
The IGI also has this entry -
THOMAS GRATTEN. Born 4th September 1872 at Cambusnethan.
Parents - John Gratten & Agnes Ross.

it seems to be an Irish surname, I checked the 1851 Lanarkshire census index and there are no Grattans of any spelling there.

My 1922 Wishaw street directory has this entry -

J. GRATTEN, Willowbank Terrace, Alexander Street.

[MonicaL]

Lodger, adding on to what you have found so far:

From 1881, possible entry:

Edward Grattan 23, coal miner b. Girvan
Margaret Grattan 24 b. Rutherglen
John Grattan 5
Andrew Grattan 3
James Grattan 8 Months

Address: 144 Stewarton St, Wishaw

There are some online trees for this family. What do you have already, Swally?

Their 1876 marriage, parents for Edward given as John and Agnes (Hamilton). For Margaret McMennemy, parents Andrew and Bridget (Campbell) - both mothers deceased and both fathers coal miners.

Edward's death date is given as 1899 (so likely no 1901 census entry... )

More worrisome, Margaret McMennemy's death date is showing as 15 September 1886 in Cambusnethan, following the death of a daughter Bridget...so who is the Margaret you have as wife in 1891?

Monica 

Added: Correction on death dates. Margaret McMenemy's death date is showing as 15 Sept 1886. Daughter Bridget's birth is given June 1886 and her death 3 days after her mother Margaret, on 18 Sept. 1886.

[MonicaL]

Lodger, on IGI, some of the Grattan births showing as Mc - not sure if this helps with your searches:

Edward McGraten 1857 - Girvan, Ayr
John McGratten 1859 - Girvan Ayr

From 1871 - all showing on this entry as born in Girvan:

John Graton 50, coal miner
Agnes Graton 57
Edward Graton 14
John Graton 13
James Graton 9

Address: 55 Raploch St, Larkhall, Dalserf

Monica

[Lodger]

Going back to the Cam'nethan burial records with the new info provided by Monica.

BRIDGET McMENEMY, housewife, Wishaw, aged 51 years, married.
Maiden surname Campbell (no other info given for her parents).
Interred in common ground on 25th March 1874.

[MonicaL]

For Edward's siblings

Auchterderran Deaths:
1907 John GRATTON Parents: John GRATTON & Agnes HAMILTON
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCT-FIFE/2005-03/1111533396

Monica

[sage]

This family appear in 1861 as McGRETTON according to the ancestry census transcription:

Living at 71 Low Glen St., Kilmarnock, Ayrshire

John, aged 31, b Ireland, Cotton Weaver
Agnes, aged 31, b Ireland, Hand Sewer
Edward, aged 4, b Girvan
John, aged 1, b Girvan

[Swally]

Monica,

I have Edward's death September 15th 1899 looks like he was married twice.
Margaret McMenemy (who you said died 15 September 1886)
Margaret Murray

I wonder why we can't get them in 1901??

Swally

[MonicaL]

I think we were looking for Edward and wife Margaret from 1891 and then wandered off with the other info....

This might be second wife Margaret and some children in 1901:

Maggie Gratton 37, shopkeeper b. Cambusnethan
Mary Gratton 11, daughter
Maggie Gratton 6, daughter
James Gratton 21, stepson, coal miner

Address: 129 Cambusnethan

Monica

Added: Still curious as to why in 1891, first wife, Margaret McMenemy's details look to have been given on the census. There certainly is a death entry showing on SP for a Margaret McMenemy/Grattan in 1886. Second marriage I think shows in 1888.