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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #27 on: Friday 14 January 22 03:07 GMT (UK) »
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 15 January 22 06:19 GMT (UK) »
Just throwing these links into the mix.....


https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22050184&digital=yes


https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22058590&digital=yes

Marriage:
1884/3012   Isabel   Watt   William   Kirker

In reply #9 there is a suggestion that the family may have had a connection to Ireland.

This couple may be worth investigating further:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225366197?searchTerm=sarah%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/223099432?searchTerm=alexander%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/224729637?searchTerm=alexander%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28399661?searchTerm=alexander%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13378928?searchTerm=alexander%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/162678258?searchTerm=alexander%20kirker

In Australia by 1842?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/31736862?searchTerm=sarah%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/222115326?searchTerm=sarah%20kirker

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107935354?searchTerm=sarah%20kirker


KIRKER   Alexander   Funeral notice   02AUG1876   Funeral      late of Enfield   Sydney Morning Herald   02AUG1876   
KIRKER   Alexander   Death notice   31JUL1876   Death   76   late of Enfield, formerly of Belfast, Ireland   Sydney Morning Herald   25 AUG 1876   

KIRKER Sarah Death notice 24 NOV 1869 Death late of Forest Lodge, Glebe The Empire 03 DEC 1869

KIRKERSarah Death notice 24 NOV 1869 Death late of Glebe, formerly of Liverpool St.Sydney Morning Herald 27 NOV 1869

KIRKER Sarah Funeral notice 26 NOV 1869 Funeral late of Glebe Sydney Morning Herald 26 NOV 1869

KIRKER Sarah Death notice 24 NOV 1869 Death late of Forest Lodge, Glebe Sydney Morning Herald 25 NOV 1869


[Apologies for any repetition of links.]

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 16 January 22 01:52 GMT (UK) »
William's family obviously believed he was born in Australia; son's WW1 file:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18057646&digital=yes


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #30 on: Monday 17 January 22 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi!

Thank you so much for all of these! The wills and army records in particular are incredibly interesting and I have never seen them before!

I am not too sure about the link with Sarah and Alexander Kirker (will try to pursue this in case - but I believe we had thought that his parents were William Kirker and Mary Brown as I think they are named on his marriage certificate?). The problem is mainly regarding his birth as he claims he was born in a place that didn't really exist at that point in time! My Grandfather travelled to Ballarat in Australia and tried to do some research and could turn up nothing on William. The local historical society helped out and couldn't find anything, but they said this wasn't surprising as there were virtually no white settlers in the area around 1836/37 which is when he claims he was born in Buninyong :(


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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #31 on: Friday 21 January 22 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi SorKir

Nice to meet another person researching this family.

Can I ask which one of William's children are you descended from?
Wildermoth/Wildermouth (Ireland, England, France); Byrne, Whelan, Keenan (Ireland); Ellis (Cornwall); Bambrough (Durham), Newman (Durham and Norfolk); Watson (Durham); Mattison (Yorkshire); Kirker (New Zealand and Ireland); Pirie (Scotland); Campton (unknown);

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #32 on: Monday 24 January 22 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning all

Please forgive me if I repeat anything that has already been said. 

I research Kirkers worldwide being the grandaughter of a Kirker I became fascinated by them and was lucky enough to be able to build upon research done by mother's cousin in the 1980s.  I have a public family tree on ancestry - Kirker Family Tree.  It is made up of many many branches which sadly do not interconnect - although I live in hope one day.

The Kirkers are a Scots Irish family who have been in Northern Ireland since the 1680s.  If you do any research in Scottish records there a very few to be found and all after that date.
To the current topic of William.  It has been a few years since I tried to find his origins.  In 2017 I wrote notes that can be found in the Gallery on my tree. 

I found 4 in Australia/New Zealand. 
1. William Kirker who married Isobel was in NZ by 1884.
2. A William Kirker in Queensland in 1889.
3. A William Kirker whose body was found at Waikato Heads in 1891 and
4. William Kirker who died in 1887 at Southland Hospital, Invercargill (my family).

William Kirker who married Isobel's obit states that he was born in Victoria, Queensland. He was 70 years old and was born c. 1844.  Most of the Kirkers that I can think of at the moment in Australia all emigrated after 1844.  This group originated from Belfast/Antrim. The other Kirkers arrived in Sydney, Alexander and Sarah, in 1841.  They have been referred to in above messages.  Alexander was married twice and had no issue.  He died in 1886 and his will benefitted Ellen and Samuel Kelly (wife Sarah's convoluted family who were brought to Australia by them) and Alexander's wife.  Many newspaper articles.

You can check my tree list for other Williams I have found.

Kirker convicts.

New South Wales, Australia, Convict Records, 1810-1891
Phoenix Hulk: Weekly Transportation Entrance Books 1838-1846
Volume Number 4/4538
Name of Prisoner: William Kirker
Ship: Henry Packer
Colonial Conviction
Where: Circuit Court: Berrima - New South Wales
When: 10 Sept 1846
Offence: House Stealing
Sentence: 12 years
Second Conviction
Probationary Gang - Van Diemen’s Land

There is also a John Kirker who was sentenced in York, England for 7 years transported on the Ship Moffatt2. Convicted in York, England. Freed 1 Sept 1843 Tasmania - having been pardoned on 12 July 1843.  Nothing else known about him.

Sady I am stumped, but records turn up all the time… I hope some of my references will help with your research.  DNA may be your best route.

Good Luck.  Karen

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello again!

Good to meet you Fred21 - I am the great Granddaughter of Peter Sylvester, so William Kirker's great-great granddaughter?

Thank you for your reply also, Karen, I am related to the first William Kirker that you mentioned in your list, although sadly, I cannot seem to get past him. I will try to find your tree on ancestry too as I have just uploaded mine on there as well.

Thanks again for everyone's help - I live in hope that the mystery of William Kirker can still be cracked!

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Re: Kirker Family
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 22 December 22 12:41 GMT (UK) »
I must apologies for the delay -- not familiar with the site -- on my family tree we have;
Thomas Kirker 1830  father of Alexander
Alexander Kirker  date about 1864 father of
Elizabeth  23/6/1888         b 72 Vernon St Belfast  Married James Boreland
Alexander 1894  b Scotland
Thomas     1899  b Antrim
Rebecca     1900  b Antrim
Alexander Married Margaret Robinson [ 1864-24/12/1936] married 18/4/1886 St Ann's 82 Turin St Belfast

About KIRKER, Alexander
French Polisher
lived 1 4 Kathleen Trc Belfast 1886
lived 2 72 Vernon St Belfast 1888
lived 3 35 Conduit St Belfast 1901
lived 4 20 Norwood St Befast 1906
Presbyterian 1901 census
Margaret KIRKER 18Apr1886 St Anne's C of I WITNESS
Alexander KIRKER Belfast GROOM
Margaret ROBINSON NZ 10608 WIFE
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Thomas ATKINSON 18Apr1886 St Anne's C of I WITNESS
Alexander KIRKER Belfast GROOM ANT
Margaret ROBINSON NZ WIFE 10608

Details:: KIRKER, Alexander's wife's sister's son's son is MARTIN, Peter Winnington
names ;;  KIRKER, Alexander wife ROBINSON, Margaret sister ROBINSON, Jane son MARTIN, George Winnington son MARTIN, Peter Winnington

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