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Charles Stephen Gibbs
« on: Friday 13 April 12 23:23 BST (UK) »
My G G Grandfather Charles Stephen Gibbs married Elizabeth Milligan on 17 Nov 1868 in Canada, probably Montreal. Charles was a Colour Sergeant in the 60th Rifles and was born in Culham, Berkshire in 1840. Elizabeth Milligan was born in Ireland in about 1841. I have been unable to find a marriage certificate using Findmypast.co.uk. Any ideas?

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 April 12 05:32 BST (UK) »
There is an entry for this marriage on Ancestry in the Drouin Collection:
17 November 1868.  Stephen Gibbs, sergeant in the first Battalion, Sixtieth? Royal Rifles, Bachelor and Sarah Milligan, spinster, both of Montreal was married by license on the Seventeenth day of November one thousand eight hundred and sixty eight by me, T.H. M. Bartlett, Chaplain to the Forces. (From the records of the Presbyterian Church, Montreal Garrison.)

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 April 12 15:39 BST (UK) »
Hi  charles,

This what I found on Ancestry

1871 Census

From Quebec Center
Household Members:
Charles Stevert Gibbs 29 - born England
Lizzie Gibbs 26 - born Ireland

from New Brunswick
Household Members: Name Age
Abriham Gibbs 55
William Gibbs 30
Charles Gibbs 29  - born New Brunswick
Sarah Gibbs 24  - born New Brunswick
Anna Gibbs 14
Isalella Gibbs 12

Just wondering if the marriage is for second couple? Your ancestor seems to be in Quebec City in 1871?

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Carpenter - B'ham Warwick,
Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 April 12 21:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help, it seems that Charles' and Elizabeth's real names were Stephen and Sarah.


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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 April 12 07:45 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to the actual census image at Library and Archives Canada (there are 2 pages per image - your couple is on lines 1 and 2 of the bottom page):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l6i/

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 April 12 16:03 BST (UK) »
In the 1871 Census, Charles Steven? Gibbs of the Quebec City couple has the occupation of "serjeant," which certainly seems consistent with both the marriage record and with Charles's information about his military careet. There are also a number of other military people listed on the same page, which suggests that they were living in some sort of military facility at the time.

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 April 12 19:06 BST (UK) »
Linda
In the Drouin marriage entry on Ancestry, is there any mention of parent's names?

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 April 12 20:43 BST (UK) »
No, I transcribed it word for word.  I'm going to send you a private message about this.

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Re: Charles Stephen Gibbs
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 April 12 07:13 BST (UK) »
It appears you only have two Gibbs named either Stephen or Charles born in 1840 +/- 2 years whose births were registered in Abingdon to choose from.

The 1841 and 1851 census has a Stephen Gibbs in the household of William and Ellen Gibbs in Culham. Stephen is then in Hougham, Kent listed as a soldier. We have Stephen in Canada in 1871. I couldn't find him on the 1881 census however his military discharge papers from 1879 did say his intended place of residence was Belfast, Ireland. He may have still been in Belfast in 1891 given the information in the next paragraph.

I went to the website Emerald Ancestors (http://www.emeraldancestors.com/) which is a pay site that has BMD and census information for Northern Ireland and saw a marriage for Charles Stephen Gibbs to an Elizabeth in Belfast in 1893. Unfortunately I don't know what her surname was because you need to pay to get that information. Perhaps getting a copy of that marriage will confirm the name of Stephen's parents.

The Charles Gibbs whose birth was registered in 1841 in Abingdon is on the 1851 census with his parents George and Elizabeth. He's listed as a lodger (20, carpenter, born Culham) in St Pancras, Middlesex on the 1861 census. He's still in St Pancras on the 1871 census with his wife Sarah and two children. He and his wife and children are in London on the 1881 census and in Wimbledon on the 1891 census. He's still in Wimbledon in 1901 listed as married but his wife isn't with the family however she is listed with him on the 1911 census still in Wimbledon.

Since the Charles who was born in Culham in 1841 is still alive in 1911 and your Charles Stephen Gibbs died in 1900 in Abingdon it seems Charles can be eliminated so it's looking pretty good that the parents of Charles Stephen Gibbs are William and Ellen Gibbs.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz