thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton

[seahall]

That's is what we are here for. 

I could not see the marriage although I looked for it.

The Northampton Library does not hold the same micro-fiche
for the Parishes as the Northampton Record Office. 

Sandy

[seahall]

Hi yet again jpanks.

As you say you have the Marriage Certificate could you say
whether it states Banns or Licence.

T.I.A.

Sandy

[jpanks]

Hi sandy..

The marriage certificate says banns

Thanks....

[seahall]

Thanks for that.

So what is known for sure?

Charles Clarke was in Chesterfield on the 1901 census
and Towcester on the 1891.

Did he marry Harriet Dickens in Dec Qtr 1905 in Chesterfield.?

Had daughter Mabel in 1906 in Chesterfield.

Harriet then dies in Dec Qtr 1908 aged 21.

Then in 1910 Charles marries Kate.

If so does the marriage certificate show they are both widow/er
or that Charles was a bachelor.

As both came from Towcester did they know each other before marriage.

I still find it strange that Thomas was a boarder and Kate was listed
as living at home being with her parents.

As the census was purely the night in question you would have thought
that Thomas would have been visiting not boarding.

Therefore will the birth certificate of Minnie give the clues needed.

Or the 2nd marriage of Kate.

Finally where is the death record for Thomas.

Sandy

[seahall]

Looking at the 1901 Census I think I can see the link to the
Clarke family.

James Walmsley of Towcester married Abigail Moore and had a
daughter Ellen who married James Clarke father and mother of
Charles.

Abilgail is on the above census as Mother in law.

A lot of information relating to the Walmsley/Clark families and many
more Towcester folk are on Mary Taylor's brilliant site on my links
below this posting. (I wish I had checked it first. 

Kate Morgan (father William Walmsley therefore was related to the Clarke's).

Sandy

[jpanks]

Hi again...
Had got the connection to Abigail and the walmsleys,
Don't know this Harriet,, new to me so never seen marriage certificate

Will definitely
 Have to order both Minnie and Elsie birth certificate

Probably Minnie's first..

I am also at a loss with thomas Morgan death detail ... Where? Especially.


Thanks

Jason.

[seahall]

Hi Jason.

We always put whatever information we can to help yourself
and any folk who maybe tracing the same family and find the
topic at a later date.

Back to Thomas you say he died in an industrial accident do you know
what job/place he was working at then.

As the 1901 is the only sighting of him in Northampton at the moment
and no knowledge of when he died as not on Freebmd in the time scale
you quoted, can you narrow it down at all with anything further.

Sandy

[jpanks]

Really sorry., I got nothing..
Told from a 70 year old auntie,everything I already passed on here .
When I questioned her more she didn't know where, when or even what job
Just that he was a captain in the army or something like

Now, Elsie's granddaughter was born in the 20s, and I have been informed that she is still alive. I am currently waiting for her son to get in contact. To arrange a meeting. But I have been waiting a while.

Is it worth looking at census for arrundel stree. To see who's there..?
I think it's maybe a possibility that Thomas was working at a railway ,plant just an idea from something my father said before he passed away.

Sorry I got no more but really appreciate the help.

Jason

[seahall]

Hi Jason.

It does seem as though we are working a bit out of our depth. 

Anyway here is some information I gleaned about the family (Walmsley also)
today.

The full marriage details for Thomas and Kate.

St Pauls Parish Church after Banns

Pg. 26, No. 252
February 20th 1899
Thomas Morgan, 26, Bachelor, Store-keeper, 19, Stanley Street, father Thomas
(Deceased) Rounder to
Kate Walmsley, 18, Spinster, 4, Semilong Place, father William, Stitchman

Thomas and Kate signed their names.

Witnesses:  William Walmsley (signed his mark) and her sister
Esther Norris Walmsley

Sandy