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thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« on: Tuesday 10 April 12 21:44 BST (UK) »
Please help....i am looking for details regarding my great grandad. name thomas Morgan married to Kate walmsley 20th february  1899 at st Paul's, Kate lived at st sepulchre. thomas born about 1873 died between 1906 and 1910
in an industrial accident. he may have been deaf.lived at Stanley street when married. i cant seem to find any marriage parish records for this period.     Please help am in doncaster cant get there......aaaaahhh :)

btw.... new to family research

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 April 12 22:17 BST (UK) »
Did they have a daughter Elsie b 1900
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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 April 12 22:20 BST (UK) »
yes they did and another .... minnie.   minnie is my grandmother, cant get any further down the thomas line.

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 12:09 BST (UK) »

Firstly, welcome to Rootschat!

Secondly, could we just clarify ... you say that you can't get any further "down" the Thomas line, so are you looking for ancestors or descendants of Thomas and Kate?

You can find Thomas and Kate's marriage on the FreeBMD website (www.freebmd.org) - this will give you the necessary reference number to order their marriage certificate.

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 12:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replying.....
I am on the search for ancestors of Thomas.
I have the marriage certificate it isn't of much help.
It states thomas Morgan (deceased) as the father who's profession is written as "rounder".
I thinks it has something to do with a railway turntable at the station.
Thomas Morgan jnr profession is storeman.

Not much help....hundreds of Thomas Morgan's.
Hoping that maybe there's more info in parish register.

Aaaaaahhh

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 20:04 BST (UK) »

I think it unlikely that the parish register will have any further information, but it may be worth using the search services of the Northamptonshire Record Offfice to find the entry.

Who are the witnesses listed on the marriage certificate?

On the 1901 census Kate MORGAN (nee WALMSLEY) is living with her parents in Northampton (born in Towcester).  Her infant daughter Elsie is with her.  No sign, though, of Thomas.

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 20:24 BST (UK) »

Further to previous posting, there's a Thomas MORGAN (born 1873 in London) living as a boarder in Northampton.  His occupation is given as "cycle storekeeper" and he is recorded as married.

It may be worth seeing if you can find this Thomas on the 1881 census (free-to-view on various websites) with his father Thomas in a similar occupation to "rounder".

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 21:02 BST (UK) »
Yes that's something I will be checking, thank you.
Do think parish records will help....?

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Re: thomas morgan married at st paul,s northampton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 April 12 12:23 BST (UK) »
It may be worth purchasing Elsie's birth certificate (as she was born less than a year before the 1901 census) as this may confirm Thomas's occupation.

There are two Minnie MORGANs with births registered in Northampton - in 1904 and 1906 - do you know if either of these are your grandmother?

Interestingly, the only death registrations in the county of Northamptonshire from 1910 to 1915 are in 1911 and 1912 - neither are in Northampton and both are way out on year of birth.

Can you post the names of the witnesses on Thomas's marriage certificate, as these may give new leads to follow.

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