Wright Family History.

[jimmytheone]

Hi Coreen,

Thanks for confirming all that. It's great to find someone I can get my teeth into - there's more on the web about Joseph Fernandino Gillio than the rest of the people on this tree put together - One of your correspondents mentioned that JFG was a Grand Steward in the Freemasons; I have seen another reference to him as Senior Grand Warden, which would appear to be the third highest rank. But if you've been looking for the last few years and I've been looking for the last few weeks I don't suppose there's much I can tell you.

My friend is also descended from Edward Walter Lambert & Theodosia Wright, they are her 3 x gt-grandparents. Their firstborn, Lydia Thedosia Lambert (1859-1924), married Thomas Barfoot (1858-1910) whose daughter Mary Ann Barfoot (1889-1964) married Richard McCleave (1880-1940) - my friend's great-grandparents. After that the people are still alive and I guess I shouldn't name them here.

Thomas Barfoot was a railway porter and a general labourer, which seems a long way from Freemasonry, surgery, and 'Judge in Augryapoore' [GWG], and why I doubted the connection. Mind you, there's a similar tale in my own family when the admiral's grand-daughter eloped with her uncle's groom, my great grandfather, after her father had money troubles prior to leaving her an orphan.

I decided not to follow all nine of Lydia Lambert's siblings so I don't have you on the tree.

I assume that Joseph Wright, b.1797 must have died before his brother Joseph Ferdinando Wright was born so could the burial of a Jos. Wright in Westminster on January 1, 1799 on FamilySearch be him? There's no more info than that. As you said, Wrights are harder to follow than Gillios.

Thanks again,
James,

[corinthian]

Hi James,

Just to confirm I do have all the details about the Lambert family down,through to the McCleaves as well as other branches.
I agree that the Jos.Wright buried 05/01/1799 is probably the Joseph Wright born 11/10/1797.

Most of the info iro the Gillio family I've obtained via the internet. I have found both the India Office FHS site & the FIBIS websites useful for information pertaining to George William Gillio,Theodosia's brother. Another brother,William Robert Gillio,was taken on as an apprentice in 1792 by the (apparently!) famous funiture maker,John Linnell but I can find no further details about him.  There was also a sister,Caroline Amelia Gillio,but other than her baptism on 17/10/1771,I can trace no further details. I've found mentions of  Gillios on other sites including tracing the will of George Gillio,brother to JFG. The will was not proven until 31/05/1793,although George had died in 1780. George left the proceeds to a Mary Woolley,formerly Bonnington,wife of John Woolley. Intriguingly a John Woolley,a widower,married a Mary Gillio 03/06/1786. I'm not sure what the connection is here,a sister,a daughter??. There are other marriages but I've struggled to link them up. If you do find anything that I've overlooked I would be grateful if you could let me know.   

Regards

Coreen

[jimmytheone]

Hello again,

As I said, you've probably found everything there is to find but I must ask whether you have read;

MEMOIRS OF A HIGHLAND LADY
THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF ELIZABETH GRANT OF ROTHIEMURCHUS
AFTERWARDS MRS. SMITH OF BALTIBOYS
1797-1830

http://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/cmsw/search/document.php?documentid=76

It's full of anecdotes about George William Gillio's wife and daughter Amelia, who sounds like a right one!!!, and son George, who wasn't much better.

I wonder whether Mrs Smith was related to Martha Elizabeth Smith, JF Wright's wife.

BTW, may I ask which of Edward Lambert's children was your Great Grandparent?

James.

[corinthian]

Hi James,

Yes have read that - not word for word but,I think,all that refers to the Gillio family. Loved the mention of daughter,Amelia's, extra short fashions ''at both extremities'' & how they were ashamed of being seen with her. I only found one mention of son George - did you find more? I have only managed to trace four children of George & Margaret Gillio;Amelia (1800-1850),George (born c1802-1820),Margaret (1803-1845) & Isabella (1809-1836). There may have been others,maybe between the years 1803-1809,although when Isabella married Francis Brooke Norris 5/05/1829 there is a footnote that reads ''At Ghundwarah............,to Isabella,third daughter of the late George William,Esq.,Bombay Civil Service''. Daughter Margaret went on to marry David Winter Fraser 26/01/1825 & there's quite a lot of info available about him & their children (including triplets) via the internet.

I have Amelia's first marriage to Lieut.William Reynolds 13/10/1823 in Bombay,India. She went on to have two daughters with William;Margaret Elizabeth (03/10/1824-Aug 1825) & Isabella Augusta (1825-?). Isabella married William Montague Johnston in Nagpore,India 21/11/1844.
Amelia was widowed 02/02/1828 & married for the second time to a William Henry Miller on 03/12/1830. She went on to have several other children with William Miller.   

I have no idea about the Smith connection but it is a possibility.  

My grt grandparent was Elizabeth Ann Lambert (1879-1956). Elizabeth was the second youngest child of Edward & Theodosia. My nan (Elizabeth's daughter) always told me that she'd come from a once well off family - i'd love to be able to tell her what i've found out but she died in 1999.

Regards

Coreen

[jimmytheone]

Hi Coreen,

Thanks again. No, I only found the one mention of George; the tale of his running off to sea other than this intro to the family; "She [Amelia's mother] intended leaving her youngest daughter and her son at good schools in England, and was preparing to return to Bombay with her two eldest girls when she heard of her husband's death. Her circumstances being much changed by this calamity, she thought of Edinburgh as uniting many advantages for all her children at a cheaper rate than she could procure them elsewhere. We took lodgings for them; the boy was to attend the High School, the two younger girls the classes, and the elder ones to go a little out if they made desirable acquaintance", and yes, I had Amelia's marriage wrong. I had it from the Asiatic Journal; Oct 13, Lieut. W.Reynolds, Revenue and Topographical Department, to Miss Amelia Gillio, eldest daughter of the late G.W.Gillio.Esq., of the Civil Service. I saw 1824 at the top of the page and didn't notice that it was recording the previous year's events. Sorry. Perhaps she wasn't quite as 'naughty' as I thought.

I'm in exactly the same position regarding up-market ancestors. I never really believed my mother's tales and only found the truth after she had died. Mind you, all the scandal is in the wealthy 1/16 of the tree. Well, apart from my great aunts who'd have got on well with Amelia!!

Regards,
James.

[corinthian]

Hi,

I didn't find the bit about George running off to sea. Do you know what chapter that was in?

Regards

Coreen

[jimmytheone]

Good morning,

It's in Chapter XVII, 1818-1819; — Mrs. Gillio's family troubles —

"George, her only son, had run away; after a search of some days he was discovered on board a collier, bent on going to sea. He made stipulations before consenting to return home, one of which was that he should no more attend the High School. One of her Indian friends placed him somewhere in England under a tutor, who prepared young men for cadetships; he got his appointment in proper time, and went out to Bombay, where he died."

I hope I've got that right.

James.

[corinthian]

Hi James,

Thanks,I missed that. George died 24/11/1820 in Bombay,India. He must have been very young when he died.

Regards

Coreen 

[jimmytheone]

Hello again,

I see you have Isabella Gillio's dates as 1809-1836 and, while I expect you're right, I thought I'd show you this from Historical records of the Survey of India, Volume 3, which, unclear as it is, appears to have her death as 1839.

I hope the image attaches and you can see it, I've not done such a thing before. I cannot see the rest of the entry.

James