Janne Sandberg b. Sweden / Sailor Cardiff,UK

[JohannaSandberg]

Hej !

I've not found Any new information on my relative Janne for month and months - I am stuck !
  I would Love if Anyone could help me find him.

Janne Sandberg born sep 25, 1847 in Florshult, Sweden.
 His parents : Nils Sandberg born 1808 and Pernilla Nilsdotter.

According to a Very old post on another website - this very man, Janne Sandberg, was a steward on ships, the first one was SS Camellia mar 12, 1885 - 21 feb 1887 and they sailed from Cardiff.
 - And the person (who I cant find) was a descendant to Janne, so he obvisouly had a family in England.

But - I cannot find Anything ! Can anyone help me find something on Janne or his family in England?

Thank you in advance.
 Johanna Sandberg

[hugatree]

The Cornwall records office has crew lists for a list of ships.  The Camelia is one of them.  You could email them, as you cannot visit and ask if they have more information on Janne

http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~treevecwll/msrclf1.htm

Regards 

Oooh, sorry she's listed as a sailing fishing vessel, so wrong ship!

[Spidermonkey]

Have you looked at John Sandberg bn 1847 Sweden on the 1881 census - he is a tailor in MIddlesex with wife Matilda and son Johan E A A Sandberg (5mnths old, bn Middlesex). RG11; Piece: 129; Folio: 67; Page: 20

John Sandberg says that he is a naturalised British Subject, which might mean the National Archives has a record of him.

Perhaps not - in 1901 he is still a tailor RG13; Piece: 455; Folio: 80; Page: 33

Back to the drawing board!

[Spidermonkey]

Ok, a little detective work leads me to believe that the son of Janne Sandberg was John W Sandberg bn c. 1883 in Northumberland.  I will PM you to explain how I reached that conclusion.

Looking at the 1911 free index, he appears to have a wife - Annie, and daughter Ada MAry.  Living in North Shields, Northumberland.

[Spidermonkey]

1901 census:
37 dene St, Northumberland

Mary Sandberg  Wife  Mar  47  bn North Shields
John W Sandberg  Son  18  Ship yard labourer  bn North Shields
Phyllis I Sandberg  Dau  16  General domestic servant  bn north Shields
James J Sandberg  Son  14  Labourer in grain warehouse  bn North Shields
Anna Sandberg  Dau  12  bn North Shields
RG13; Piece: 4800; Folio: 153; Page: 40

[Spidermonkey]

1891 - family are living on Davisons Lane, North Shields.
RG12; Piece: 4223; Folio: 40; Page: 31

Janne is enumerated as John, aged 42 bn Sweden.  There is also an additional daughter not on the 1901 census - Ada M Sandberg, aged 12

[Spidermonkey]

A possibility for John/Janne's death from the GRO marine death indicies - death year 1906, vessel Begonia, age 56, page 220

I think the BEgonia may have been a steamship owned/operated by Stag Line out of North Shields.  The original Begonia was built in 1899 and sold off in 1916 to the Maindy Shipping Co, Cardiff.

[Spidermonkey]

Some info from the crew list:
John Sandberg, bn 1849, Sweden.
Steward on the Stephanotis for the period 9 Oct 1891 - 14 Dec 1891
Master: D Munro
Owner: Joseph RObinson (was bought out by Stag Line I think)
Vessel Official Number: 65382
Sailing out of North Shields
BT99/1689

He had done an earlier trip on this vessel - 3 Mar 1891 - 29 May 1891

Prior to the 3 Mar 1891 trip, he had been on the Amaryllis

[Spidermonkey]

I've been trying to work out what happened to Janne's wife and children.

I think that in 1911 wife Mary is with daughter Ada.  Indexed as SANDBURG

Phyllisina (?!) Sandberg mar John Thomas Johnson in Dec qtr 1908 Tynemouth 10b 336.  From 1911 index: John THomas Johnson (31), Phyllisina JOhnson (26), Phyllis Doxford Johnson (1), Victor Grayson Johnson (3mnths)