Victorian Death - Agatha Josephine CARSTENS

[majm]

And, as with many submitted trees, someone has Agatha marrying John when John was only eight years old !  They have the marriage as at Ballarat in 1886, and of course Agatha was not yet born   so someone has not done their homework ....  

No wonder that prjoey has asked for RChat help  

Cheers,  JM

[Raylen]

Marriage of the parents of Agatha Josephine


CARSTENS Hans (born Denmark)
RYAN Bridget (born Clare)
1866  Reg# 409

Raylen

[majm]

I am not at all sure, but

10 August, 1865 arrival into Qld, on the Peter Godeffroy departing from Hamburg there's Hans CARSTENS aged 24.

If that is Agatha's Dad, then he needs to get to Vic by 1866 

Cheers,  JM

[prjoey]

Thanks all for prompt replies

Jamjar..... I did have parents info sorry for not including

I am particularly interested to know if she had any brothers/sisters

[majm]

Re possible siblings

One of the submitted trees lists TEN siblings, AND another of those submitted trees only has Agatha.  May I please stress that submitted trees should be treated with caution, and in my view, the sensible way to validate any apparent record on any person's family history is to firstly gain access to the official record ... eg birth certificates for siblings, (info usually given by one of the parents) or dcs for parents (hoping the names/ages of all the children are accurately noted) or mcs (info given by the bride and groom)

Here's some submitted info :

Births 

1867 Peter Bogislaus
1869 Alexander
1872 Catherine Cecilia
1873 Thomas Edmund
1875 John Samuel
1878 Mary Ann
1880 Sophia Burgiette
1882 Antoinette Florence
1885 Herbert Thomas
1887 Agatha Josephine
1890 Joseph Francis

If you download Agatha Josephine's bc you should find ALL her older siblings noted there, including any that were no longer alive when she was born. 

Cheers,  JM

[Raylen]

Births 

1867 Peter Bogislaus 
1869 Alexander   
1872 Catherine Cecilia       
1873 Thomas Edmund     
1875 John Samuel
1878 Mary Ann 
1880 Sophia Burgiette   
1882 Antoinette Florence
1885 Herbert Thomas 
1887 Agatha Josephine
1890 Joseph Francis 

If you download Agatha Josephine's bc you should find ALL her older siblings noted there, including any that were no longer alive when she was born. 

Cheers,  JM

Father: Hans Carstens     Mother: Bridget Ryan
Births  - with a couple of differences 

1867 Peter  at Ballarat  Reg#6425  ( no second name on registration) died 1893 at Tongala age 26yrs
1869 Alexander  at Smythesdale  Reg#25143   
1871 Catherine Cecelia  at Smythesdale  Reg#26400
1874 Thomas Edmund  at Ballarat East  Reg#6728  died 1874 age 2months  Reg#3817
1875 John Samuel   at Ballarat  Reg#13663
1878 Mary Ann  at Echuca  Reg#2266
1880 Sophie Bergitha  at Tongala  Reg#25616
1883 Antonetta Florence at  Tongala Reg#5879
1885 Herbert Thomas   at Tongala  Reg#21999
1887 Agatha Josephine at Tongala Reg#24472
1890 Joseph Francis  at Tongala  Reg#28210




Raylen