Clifford family

[rosball]

In the Victorian Electoral Rolls
   1931 and 1936 Hugh Clifford, gardener, is living by himself (I mean no others of same surname at that address) in Fawkner, Toorak.
   Annie May Clifford is living in same area but different address (with no others of same surname at that address)

   If they were married in 1928 it seems that they split up fairly soon afterwards ...?

   Ann did you tell us what was on the marriage certificate about his parents and age?  Is there a birth certificate for the child or children of Hugh and Annie May?

cheers,
   Ros

[anne diston]

Yes they did split up soon after their only child was born. They met each other when she was the cook/maid and he was the gardener chaffeur for prime minister Stanley Bruce and his wifes house in Melbourne.I do have my mothers birth cert. and will get hugh and annies cert.which I thought I had

[anne diston]

maybe William, Hughs brother did sign his death certificate or something similar as he had no next of kin in Australia.that he acknowledged. the form that william signed did it actually say where Hugh died?

[MonicaL]

Hi Anne

Regarding the death certificate that Cheryl has mentoned she has, this is from the statutory death registers in Scotland. By law, the death will have been registered in the locality where it took place. Included on the cert will be the usual residence for this Hugh and time and date of death.

There is no way an Australian death would be reported this way on the Scottish statutory registers. If it was to show anywhere, it would be in 'minor records' which can include foreign BMDs....but that does not seem to be the case here.

Whilst we have been talking about the similarities for both Hughs and the death year for both of 1956, might be good double check actual death date. The newspaper notice that Ros posted was on Monday 6 February 1956 (death date on 3 February). Cheryl, what was the death date in 1956 for Hugh in Lanarkshire?

Monica

[anne diston]

Maybe john clifford and barbara {Barbarel} English married America or Ireland or somewhere else I even wonder if their son Hugh may have had a different forename maybe john  so they used a made up name for him did his parents die when he was young He was supposed to have been in the merchant navy during ww1 He was about 16 when he arrived in Australia Anyone got any ideas where I should look next?

[anne diston]

Cheryl I wonder if the 22 year old boarder living with your clifford family is the father of my Hugh who could be living with a relative else where do you know where the census says he was born? In the census it said he was a coal miner but that doesnt mean to say he could have been a printer later in life.

[Cheryl.]

Cheryl I wonder if the 22 year old boarder living with your clifford family is the father of my Hugh who could be living with a relative else where do you know where the census says he was born? In the census it said he was a coal miner but that doesnt mean to say he could have been a printer later in life.

Hi Anne,

Have only just noticed this reply - sorry! I'm not sure what boarder you are talking about?

[anne diston]

The John on the 1901 census

[anne diston]

Is there anyway I will find out anything more about Hugh Clifford? On his marriage certificate he claimed that his father John was a printer and his mother was Barbara English cant find any evidence that these 2 married. On his deathe certificate person giving information said he had never been married or had any children so frustating