Clifford family

[Gadget]

Leading on from the last post, I've been looking at Cheryl's postings. She is a descendant of Hugh Clifford and has lots of info, including this account of his death:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,530019.msg3846156.html#msg3846156



gnu

[Seoras]

Aha the mist is clearing gnu.Interesting that County Kerry is mentioned as that is where I think my Cliffords may be from originally.I have been off backtracking to see if there was any link but can find none apart from my GGG grandfather Daniel was born in Lanarkshire.

[Cheryl.]

I think you have my Hugh!

If you want to PM I can give you some info.

[anne diston]

Thank you all for the help you have given me for finding my grandfather hugh CliffordI am pretty sure that William and Isabella are his parents My mother was the one who told me about the parents being called John and Barbara and that she had a certificate with their names on it but when I went home for easter we looked for it amongst her private papers and could not find it. She has been wrong about a few things including the fact that she believed her mother came out to melbourne by herself but I discovered she came out with a cousin. my mother now has dementia and has never been interested in genealogy. Cheryl do you know much about the children of Hugh and Bella not sure when Hugh came out to Australia he married my grandmother in australia in 1928

[Cheryl.]

I know a lot about Hugh and Isabella's children - I have some photos of some of them. I know a little bit about your grandfather too (assuming he is the right man). I think I have some records on him in my family tree mess! I know about Hugh and Isabella's parents and also brothers and sisters too. They lived in the village I still live in now, and if your grandfather is the son of Hugh and Isabella I also know that he lived in this village too. Hugh Snr. was a relatively successful footballer in his younger days.

I have a record for a Hugh Clifford, born abt 1897 who married a Jane Shiels in 1921 in Carfin - he is Hugh and Isabella's son. This would be the Hugh who is your grandfather - I think! Do you know what year he died and where?

I will send you a PM on here with my e-mail address as it will be easier to communicate through e-mail, I think - if you don't mind.

[sancti]

There are Cliffords buried in St Pats cemetery New Stevenston

[Cheryl.]

My g grandfather is in St Pats alongside his wife!

[anne diston]

cheryl I have Hughs birth date and place of birth from list of soldiers in 2nd world war. Also have my grandmothers wedding certificate. hugh and my grandmother Annie may Turner both worked for primeminister Stanley Bruce she was the house maid and hugh was the chaufeur and gardener. when they married my grandmother was 7 months pregnant Hugh was 7 years younger than Annie May The marriage did not last long as he had shell shock bought on from the first world war.The only stories we have heard about him is that he was in the merchant navy during the war and won a medal something to do with a smoke screen. In later years he was known to work in Myers in the lift. He died in Heidleberg repatriation hospital I think 1956 from emphysema and bronchitis next of kin said a sister t.Smith and that he had never been married or had any children!I have his death certificate I was wondering if he left his first wife or if she died .Annie May did not divorce him and was T Smith really his sister so many mysteries>I will post a photo which my grandmother kept in a locket when my husband is around as I dont know how to do that anne

[Cheryl.]

Hi Anne,

I don't think your grandfather and his first wife had nay kids, though I'm sure they did adopt one son - not 100% on that.

You may be able to get some more of his war records on ancestry. I don't know an awful lot more about him but I can email you some pictures of Hugh and some info on his family.

I will email