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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 10:28 BST (UK) »
The thing is, we mustn't judge our ancestors by our present day social conditions and values!

I think women generally had a rotten deal in the past and I am S-O-O glad that I am living now and not then!  But our ancestresses would not have had any idea of an independent life for women.  By and large, all they could have expected was marriage and children - or poverty - and could only have hoped that they would marry someone who would treat them well and be a good provider for them and their children. 

That comes out clearly in Jane Austen, who has been referred to.  Even a lively, intelligent woman like Lizzie Bennett had to marry or face a life of marginalisation and poverty.  We can see her facing that possibility when she had the spunk to reject the awful Mr Collins, but her friend wasn't willing to risk it and sold her soul to marry him. 

I am very, very pleased that the tombstone has been erected for Frederick and Emma!

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 11 April 12 13:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Stoodly on Wednesday 11 April 12 08:50 BST (UK)
Update from Melissa's mother roday - the tomb stone for Frederick and Emma Helen Tames is nearly completed and will be soon installed at the cemetery.

That is wonderful. I don't suppose there would be any chance of a photo when the stone is in place?  :) A great ending to the story.

 I see your point Wiggy, but I still reckon the guys generally got the better end of the remarriage bargain.  ;)

(Cocksie, what interesting ancestors you have.  ;))

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #101 on: Friday 13 April 12 04:10 BST (UK) »
another good episode this week.
did anyone follow up on cecil and his mother to see what happened to them?
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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #102 on: Monday 16 April 12 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hi All, Vince Colosimo's episode on tomorrow night , Tuesday 17th April at 7:30pm.

Here's a sneak peek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWSYVd78ask

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #103 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 02:24 BST (UK) »
Looking forward to this tonight!  :)

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #104 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 12:15 BST (UK) »
Vince Colosimo

Enjoyed this episode and as I was watching it I made a mental note of questions/comments, which I have prompty forgotten.  ::) I wasn't bowled over by it for some reason, though his story was an interesting one. I did like his comment about how he was worried how the public might judge his family when he found out that his ggrandfather was a black shirt.
 
When he saw the comments made regarding his grandparents 'poor' English, and he asked for the same of the person who wrote the report, I half expected him to jump up, rush off to trace their descendants and beat 'em up ...  :P

I will add some more comments later ...  ;)

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 22:06 BST (UK) »
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When he saw the comments made regarding his grandparents 'poor' English, and he asked for the same of the person who wrote the report, I half expected him to jump up, rush off to trace their descendants and beat 'em up ...   :P

Interesting wasn't it!     And you can just imagine the person doing the interview of the person and getting irritated at the lack of English - maybe at the end of a long day of similar interviews and just writing 'hopeless' in sheer frustration - with no idea that it would be read again down the years!

Very Interesting episode  - pity my son rang right in the middle of it!  ::)   ;D
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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #106 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 23:32 BST (UK) »
I too had an interruption from a phone call - but I really enjoyed what I saw!  I found the stories quite gripping.  Not so much, this time, of what irritates me about some episodes - the plethora of librarians and archivists bearing pre-researched info to dump in front of the celebs.  Well, it was more behind the scenes, not so obvious!  I liked the way he travelled around and spoke Italian to various people to find out about his ancestors' lives.

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Re: Australian Series #4 of WDYTYA
« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 01:17 BST (UK) »
Wiggy and Marie - you can always rewatch the programme on the SBS website.  :)

I agree with you Marie - no certificates handed to him by archivists which was refreshing.

I know that migrants today have to undertake English lessons, (and there is that ridiculous Australian cultural knowledge test  :P) and I think they are expected to reach a reasonable standard, but I think it's non-formal and a pass or fail basically doesn't mean much. With Vince Colosimo's grandparents, was a reasonable standard of English a requirement for citizenship? The programme implied that there was a later test or interview and by that time their English had improved. 

Maybe you are right Wiggy - the word 'hopeless' was probably never intended to be read by more than a couple of officials.
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