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Offline Valtaya

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Who Fancies A Challange???
« on: Monday 02 April 12 10:51 BST (UK) »
I have a right fiddly one..

Joseph Bernard Scarle married Ada Elizabeth Brown in 1905 in Langley Mill (Basford District.
On 1911 census he is living in Heanor with wife and kids - which says he was born 1879 in Leicestershire.
He died 1927 in Heanor aged 48. (as Bernard Scarle)

So far so good yes?? Well where the heck was he before that??!!
There is no sign of any Joseph Bernard Scarle on any other census records and NO birth record for that name or anything like that..
What am I missing???
Bell - Kimberley,
Dewey - Kimberley,
Manners - Ilkeston,
Lee - Eastwood,
Asbury - Birmingham,

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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 April 12 10:58 BST (UK) »
Have you tried looking under the name Searle.....I can imagine Scarle easily being mis-transcribed as Searle
Seeking baptism for Thomas Peter Nugent c1802-10 and Charles James Nugent c 1805-10 somewhere/anywhere in London
NUGENT Westminster Bermondsey Walthamstow
COLLIER & OWEN Bermondsey
HAMBLETON Bermondsey
MORETON Hampshire
GROVER Burghfield Berkshire
HALL Buckinghamshire Walthamstow Norfolk
Mary Ellen/Ellen Mary ARCHER c 1875 Derby????

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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 12 11:14 BST (UK) »
Wow this is a tough one for sure.  Don't suppose you have marriage cert with fathers name  8)
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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 April 12 11:26 BST (UK) »
I have to go out now but someone could look at this one perhaps?

1881   3157/ 95/ 19

There is a published tree with this family

heywood  :)
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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 April 12 11:59 BST (UK) »
1881 census, reference RG11, 3157, 95, 19
5 Yeoman Street, St Margaret, Leicester

Shahill, Patrick  Head  M  50  Conc. Porter  b Killernan(?), Ireland
Shahill, Bridget  Wife  F  41  b Ireland
Shahill, Ann  Daughter  F  18  Warehouse  b Whitwick, Leicestershire
Shahill, Bridget  Daughter  F  15  Warehouse  b Whitwick
Shahill, John  Son  M  13  Scholar  b Whitwick
Shahill, Mary J  Daughter  F  11  Scholar  b Leicester
Shahill, Bernard  Son  M  11  Scholar  b Leicester


Same family in 1891:
RG12, 2537, 51, 15
11 Albert Street, Leicester

Skahill, Patrick  Head  M  71  Coal Porter  b Galway
Skahill, Bridget  Wife  F  47  b Laughney, Ireland
Skahill, Bridget  Daughter  F  25  Machinist  b Whitwick, Leicestershire
Skahill, Mary J  Daughter  F  24  Shoe Rivetter  b Leicester
Skahill, Bernard  Son  M  25  Machinist  b Leicester

Phonetically, especially in an Irish accent, Shahill, Skahill, Scarle all sound close?! ;D
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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 April 12 12:29 BST (UK) »
From what has been discovered and the online Tree this looks like your man....

Births Sep 1878
SKAHILL Bernard - Leicester 7a 221

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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 April 12 12:37 BST (UK) »
Parents married as Patrick Scale and Bridget Ryan Sept.1855 Leicester.

Patrick's death in 1897 as Scarle.

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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 April 12 12:48 BST (UK) »
Ooooooooooooooh I love you lot!!

The marriage certificate for Bernard (Joseph) and Ann are on the order list for this month but HOPEFULLY that will just confirm what you have done already..

xx
Bell - Kimberley,
Dewey - Kimberley,
Manners - Ilkeston,
Lee - Eastwood,
Asbury - Birmingham,

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Re: Who Fancies A Challange???
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 12 12:56 BST (UK) »
That's great news isn't it. We knew people called Scahill which was pronounced in a similar fashion - or Sca- hill.

good luck  :)
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