John William Brown - Prince Albert SK and Edmonton AB

[obhgis]

Looking for info on John William Brown born in Prince Albert Saskatchewan 25 June 1913.
He also lived in the Edmonton AB area where he met and married Sara Rosentreter. They had 4 children and later moved to British Columbia. If anyone has marriage info for them or anything else I would love to here from you. All I've found are his birth and death. I cannot find him as a child in the 1916 census of the prairie provinces either.

[*Sandra*]

This was what was discussed on the previous thread mentioning John William Brown.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,585043.msg4363492.html#msg4363492

Haven't come across a John William Brown of the correct age on the 1916 Census 

Sandra

[Jacquie in Canada]

Alberta marriages aren't online unfortunately. Newspaper announcements may be your best bet at finding the information.

Jacquie

[obhgis]

Have been checking online at archives no luck yet on marriage but may have found info on his father coming over asa a homechild.

Can someone in Saskatchewan please look up birth announcemnts for John William Brown born 25 June 1913 Prince Albert Saskatchewan, it may confirm the name of his father and mother. I believe his father is also John William Brown who may have arrived in canada in 1906

[J.J.]

Your info is a bit missleading.... rootschatters found his birth date and father within the information for his
death. Not everyone could afford to put birth announcements in the paper back then, but, because you
have birth dates, his birth certificate would be available to you from the vital stats site for a fee...
http://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx
Just a hint that not answering a thread can mean you're ignoring the answers to questions you have asked,
( see your other thread linked to above) also, please provide a link to older threads or better yet, keep from
making new ones with similar topics...

[J.J.]

Going to add that the family appears to be convinced that the parent, John William Brown was a home-child. Not the one mentioned above, but the one who came in 1900. Not enough loose ends tied up for me to say it is certain. Perhaps they have extra info not available online.

This is the homechild information...will list censuses in next post
https://www.homechildrencanada.com/registry?id=54268
John William BROWN, born 25 July 1888 and aged 10 years 11 months on admission
BROWN   J. W. age 10 ship: CAMBROMAN  1900-04-08 Halifax  Party: Barnardo Homes 
His destination was to be Russell, Manitoba??? but seems he lucked out in Ontario-

I found him in 1901 census with S. James  Graham, wife M. Jane & son S. John
 as "William" Graham probably to avoid confusion - their " adopted son"  But says born July 8th 1888
son John was married 1903 - so may have been the only child left in the household after that.
He may have also been able to use the name John.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=35728685&lang=eng
James in 1911 - with Marta Jane & daughter, no J.W.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=13372836

 Ups& Downs Mag: January 1904: John William BROWN
 - There is a Letter ( written by him?) - He's still with Mr. James GRAHAM of Napier.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=228603

__________From Canada Homechildren site__________
https://www.homechildrencanada.com/registry?id=54268
John W. Brown was one of the British Home Children, sent to Canada in 1900. Father of John William (Sarah), Lillian May (Albert Allen), Ada Helen (H. Hazen), Margaret (Ken Barnes), and Barbara (Edward Colville) Brother of Jane "Jennie" (Brown) Ling, also a British Home Child and Charles Henry Brown (1897-?) fate unknown. John is buried in the Gesthemane Garden, Section 64, Lot D1. Pre-deceased by first wife, Matilda Jean Johnson. Husband of Phoebe Anne Madley (Hewitt)Brown.

John William Brown sister  & brother
Dr. Barnardo's Letter (2001): Ref to Jane BROWN (alias DIXON). Jane was born June 1890 (no exact date given) at York...admitted to Barnardo's on 24 July 1899, aged 9 years 1 month, together with her brother John William BROWN, born 25 July 1888 and aged 10 years 11 months on admission. Father-Solomon ASPINALL with whom the mother co-habitatedM
other, Emma BROWN [separated, born DIXON], aged 46 years, inmate of  York Workhouse at the time of Jane's admission. There was a second brother Charles Henry, aged 2 years 6 months, who was with the mother in York Workhouse.
https://www.homechildrencanada.com/registry?id=54268https://www.homechildrencanada.com/registry?id=54268

[J.J.]

Can't locate him or his first wife & first child on 1911 or 1916 Sask.-
these 2 children were registered Prince Albert Sask.
 LILLIAN MAY Birth  1915 Oct.  31    IDA HELEN  Birth  1917 /Oct. / 13
Did not find son, or dau. Matilda Jean
 - 1921 has son William John/John William as born Sask but 1931 says Ontario

Mother dies before the 1921 census (where he is with 2nd wife)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/208377262/matilda-brown
Matilda Johnson Brown  20 Feb 1920 (age  30–31) Birth 1889 USA?
Burial South Hill Cemetery Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada

1921 with both his & new wife's families
 census http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tqz/

MARGARED MIRIAM 1922 /July 23  Place of Birth: Prince ALBERT
Mother PHOEBÉ ANNIE MADLEY  Father JOHN WILLIAM BROWN

1931 census   1 June 1931  Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada
John William Brown  Birth 1888 Eng   (imm. 1908) - works Steam Railway
Spouses Annie Brown  imm. 1912
Children William Brown 18 b.1913 Ontario,  Lillian Brown 16 b. 1915   Ida Brown 14  b.1917,
Margaret Brown 9 1922 ,  Barbara Brown 4 1927,  (Note this- entry) adopted dau. Irene Medley 6
Arthur Hewitt is a stepson, ( his wife's previous marriage) not a lodger.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=84193286

Grave for J.W. Sr. claims him as a homechild
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/208287739/john-william-brown

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I'd like to pay tribute to the family who took in this young lad by mentioning them:
 James S. Grahamwas Postmaster in Strathroy and a member of the Freemasons.
 
Martha Jane Moore Graham , Birth Nov 1841 Bayham, Elgin County, Ont
Death 4 Dec 1919 (aged 78) Strathroy, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
scroll down for
James S Graham Birth 1840 Death 13 Nov 1911 (aged 70–71)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189677000/martha-jane-graham
 Marriage Malahide, April 15, 1862  Elgin County:
James GRAHAM, 22, Norwich, Kingston, Thomas & Ann
Martha Jane MOORE, 20, Bayham, Bayham, Samuel & Martha
witnesses: R.B. NELSON, E. F. NELSON

Perhaps the family might find more about Napier or any other nearby institutions/schools, etc. that might have old records / more information on the lad.
Oh, dear, nevermind...It seems that Napier is a ghost-town now!

[jorose]

https://provincialarchives.alberta.ca/how-to/find-birth-marriage-and-death-records/marriage-indexes

Up to 1949. Handwritten indexes but if you know the rough year of marriage should be able to find them.