Bridgart

[JocelynM]

Very interesting..............what is the best way for me to obtain Samuel's birth certificate?

[KGarrad]

But . . . . .

There is this from 1851:
Reference HO107, 2142, 361, 5
Turnpike, Derby St Alkmund

Palmer, George  Head  M  39  Nurseryman  b Derby
Palmer, Ann  Wife  F  37  b Derby
Palmer, Eliza  Daughter  F  7  b Derby
Bridgart, John  Visitor  M  25  Builder  b Derby

[CaroleW]

You can order online direct from the GRO using the reference I gave above.  Cost is £9.25

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Births March qtr 1849  
Elizabeth Twelves    Chesterfield  19 513


Are you sure her father was Simon and not Samuel?  There is an 1851 entry with a father Samuel who was a moulder

See https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQW4-K9R

[JocelynM]

This is so amazing - thank you so much for all your help I will send away for Elizabeth's birth certificate.  Yes, Samuel could well be her father's name.  Can I send for Samuel's birth certificate, do I need a reference number too?
Good to see that John was just away from home visiting - that solves the mystery!

[CaroleW]

This is the 1851 entry

Samuel Twelves 41 iron moulder b Chesterfield
Elizabeth   41 b Calow
Ellen   17 b Duckmanton
Jane   15   ditto

Following children all b Walton Derbyshire
William 9
?? Margaret  8
Ann  7     
Elizabeth   2
Emma   4 Months
HO107 Piece 2147 Folio 591 Page 1

[CaroleW]

This is probably Samuel Twelves birth

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQWW-YHD

[JocelynM]

Thats for the info re Samuel Twelves.  I will send away for the birth certificates and see if I can get any more info on Samuel's line - doesnt look as though it will be easy.  Bridgart's apparently were once named Bridgett but it was changed at some point.
Am so glad I found this site. You are all very helpful

[spendlove]

Hi,

In  the 1841 Census Derby  HO107/199   F 10  Pg 14
Civil Parish - St. Werburgh
Hundred - Derby Borough

Listed as

John BARDGNIT  (error in transcription)  age 50  Joiner
living with him as House Keeper is
ANN WALTERS

Have found a Birth Registration of Free BMD:-

Samuel Ebenezer Bridgart June Q 1848 Derby 19 583

Emma Maria Bridgart  June Q 1850  Derby 19 641

So you are looking for a marriage from June 1841 to June 1848

Spendlove

[spendlove]

Hi,

Reported in The Derby Mercury Wednesday 2nd January 1889:-

DEATH
Bridgart  On  25th December 1888 at 112 Cobden Street, Derby
               Ann Bridgart aged 78 years

Derby Mercury Wednesday 7th March 1894
Bridgart On  February 22nd at 112 Cobden Street, Derby
              Samuel Ebenezer aged 45 years

Most people in UK can get access to Infotrac Newspapers, at home, by using their
Library or Gold Card.

Spendlove