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Worccester address 1905
« on: Wednesday 28 March 12 11:55 BST (UK) »
Just received a birth certificate from the GRO. The birth actually took place at Glenholm, Wylds Lane, Worcester and I would be interested if any member can shed light on this address around 1905 and where would it have stood on the OS map etc. Any info on particular occupants 1901-1911 would be most welcome
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Re: WORCESTER ADDRESS 1905
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 11:58 BST (UK) »
The 1901 and b1911 census would answer your question as to who lived there.

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Re: WORCESTER ADDRESS 1905
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 12:13 BST (UK) »
Not so easy, searching Wylds Lane on Ancestry 1911 turns up a no no, on Findmypast Wylds Lane appears as a list of numbers and a few names including a pub, but not Glenholm unless it is one of those numbers which didn't require a name in the postal address.

Particularly interested if Glenholm has any connection to John Bowen & Sons builders (they built the Victorian law courts in Birmingham and other disntinguished buildings in the area including Rubery mental hospital)
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Re: WORCESTER ADDRESS 1905
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 12:16 BST (UK) »
Would the local studies library nearest to there be able to help?

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Re: WORCESTER ADDRESS 1905
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 12:24 BST (UK) »
Electoral roll search @ Worcester records may reveal info, I need to get an earlier BC to the one I have just received as it has become clear that the birth records were falsified and not corrected for 11 years with all the annotations in the margin. Luckily I opted to send for the BC with the reference that was a printed entry on the GRO index although a manuscript entry also appears and that would not have given me the information I now have.

I'll have a look at old OS maps for any sign of Glenholm
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Re: Worccester address 1905
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 22:38 BST (UK) »
I have a street directory from 1901 - mostly house numbers but quite a few house names. Glenthorne and Glenmead but no Glenholm. Do you want to mention the surname to see if that helps?

If it's Bowen - I can't see anyone of that name in Wylds Lane
AMES-london*ARROWSMITH-herefordshire*TUDGE-worcestershire*NOCTOR-wexford

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Re: Worccester address 1905
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 March 12 07:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that info

I managed to access the summary books on Ancestry yesterday and found the same as last posting, the records are indexed as xxx (where xxx is the street number), then Wylds Lane with any house name (eg 222 Wylds Lane Glenthorne)

Reviewing the birth certificate I now have it is very clear that the birth registration was falsified and then amended by statutory declaration ELEVEN years later and SEVEN amendments made changing what appeared as a "married parents event" into an illegitimate birth.

Am I right in saying there was a hospital near the western end of Wylds Lane.

Bowen is a name of interest but that is not on the certificate,
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Re: Worccester address 1905
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 March 12 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hi There

have you thought about putting this request on a WOR mailing list as that may give you a good response

All the very best

Phil
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Worcestershire - Heeks, Maiden, Pinchin, Hartland, Tredwell, Holliday, Morton, Collins, Aldington, Saunders
Oxfordshire - Gomm, Hamblet, Austin, Winter,
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Gloucestershire - Holliday, Pinchin

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Re: Worccester address 1905
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 March 12 23:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
You can check out the builders named in the City of Worcester planning applications 1865-1901, (not yet indexed up to 1905), but no sign of Bowen for Wylds Lane. They seemed to operate in the north of the county/Birmingham and on larger projects.

http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/pdf/RecordsIndex-WorcesterCityPlanningApps1865to1901.pdf

You are probably thinking of Shrub Hill Hospital aka Hillborough, but it was the Union Workhouse until 1926. Interestingly Messrs John Bowen, Balsall Heath, tendered to demolish the old building and  rebuild the workhouse in 1891, but were unsuccessful.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=382&page=54

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