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JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« on: Wednesday 28 March 12 08:02 BST (UK) »
I would like to confirm the parents and siblings of Joseph John Sparrow. Have searched the census 1871 to find the information given.  Would I need to look at parish records or just buy a birth certificate using census information?

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 08:05 BST (UK) »
Parish information will not give a mother's maiden name if there are any doubts about which woman his father wed (assuming his mum wasn't a single parent)
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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 10:48 BST (UK) »
Do you know if he married and whom.

There is a Joseph John SPARROW marriage at Stepney St Philip, on 25 Sep 1892 to a Clara Isabella HILLS. He was 23, so birth c1868-69, and his father was Joseph John SPARROW. In 1901 he was 33 and birthplace given as St Lukes, which came under the Holborn RD at one stage.

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 12:15 BST (UK) »
Joseph John and Clara Isabella baptised a son Joseph John on 16 Oct 1898(DOB 27th Sept) at St Philip's Stepney.
They were of 41 JohnStreet? and dad was a porter.
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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 18:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you yes this is them. I have their marriage certificate but did not know they had a son Joseph. According to my mother their was only one son Robert.

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 18:41 BST (UK) »
He may well have died in infancy:

Birth, Dec qtr 1898: Joseph John SPARROW, St George in the East 1c 345
Death, Sep qtr 1899: Joseph John SPARROW aged 0, St George in the East 1c 275
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 19:02 BST (UK) »
He may well have died in infancy:

Birth, Dec qtr 1898: Joseph John SPARROW, St George in the East 1c 345
Death, Sep qtr 1899: Joseph John SPARROW aged 0, St George in the East 1c 275


Ahhhh bless,named after dad and grandad too- sad  :'(

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 19:04 BST (UK) »
Do you know if he married and whom.

There is a Joseph John SPARROW marriage at Stepney St Philip, on 25 Sep 1892 to a Clara Isabella HILLS. He was 23, so birth c1868-69, and his father was Joseph John SPARROW. In 1901 he was 33 and birthplace given as St Lukes, which came under the Holborn RD at one stage.

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Joseph was a farrier on the marriage cert and his dad an engineer.

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Re: JOSEPH JOHN SPARROW - Holborn c 1868
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 March 12 19:08 BST (UK) »
His parents might be Joseph John and Hannah Agnes Sims who married at St Mary's Lambeth on 25th December 1865.Both single and of full age,he was an Engineer  ;D and his dad was James Sparrow a brass finisher.

They both gave North Street as their address.

Hannah's dad was Francis Sims decd a Cooper.

Witnesses J L Gawler and E (something) well?

Carol
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