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Stevens - Loveridge
« on: Monday 26 March 12 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hi all, Im trying to find out who Thomas Stevens's parents were, he was the Thomas that was married to Comfort, he was born 1856 and died in 1928, I was told his sister was the Clementina Stevens/Loveridge and Liberty Stevens b.1872 could be there brother

Any help much appreciated   :)


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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 March 12 12:15 BST (UK) »
Maybe review your notes,  add a few dates for known births, marriages, deaths, locations and associates at census time(s) and try again?
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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 12 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Moet,

I have many family ties to this family. Comfort was the daughter of Alfred Gregory and Alice Musto.  Comfort's brother Alfred Jr. was my Grt Grandad.
The Stevens' seemed to all go back to Chedworth in Glos.  Go onto the Chedworth town website and there is information about the family. 
My x2 Grt Grandad, was Guilroy Smith, brother of the preacher Reuben Smith.  Guilroy was married to Eve Stevens, who was in turn the daughter of Manny Stevens and Eve Lock.

I've asked older family members, and some think that your Tom and the younger Eve, were brother and sister.

This is only anecdotal, so research further. The Stevens, Locks and Smiths married into each other a lot, often first cousins, and usually several siblings from one family would marry several siblings from another family.

I am not a researcher, and owe all that I have learned to the Romany Jib team, Don Lock and Eric Trudgill.

Their respective websites can be easily google searched.

Eric trudgill and Anne ford have an excellent site " Gypsy Genealogy"

Under the heading "Merrick Lock", there is some information about the Stevens connection.  Give that a try.

Vince.

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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 April 12 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Vince

Thanks for the information its much appreciated I think the Thomas you mentioned may have been the father of the Thomas I'm researching.

I know its a long shot but do you know anything about these other people I'm researching?

Rhoda Smith (maiden name unknown) her first husband's surename was Smith...so the story goes he was an auctioneer from bath they had 2 children
Rhoda aka Jane b.1886-1960 (she married matthew stevens, thomas & comforts son)
& Reuben ( I think he was the reuben smith in that group photo with liberty stevens, hes standing at the back of singe buckland)  http://sca.lib.liv.ac.uk/ead/html/gb141smgcshaw-p4.shtml

What happened to Rhoda snr's first husband I don't know but she remarried Wisdom Smith in 1897 his first wife was Edith Buckland...as I said a long shot but worth asking

Moet


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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 April 12 14:18 BST (UK) »
Hi.
 Thomas Stephens birth 17apr 1836 Henbury st'mary Gloucestershire parents Charles and Elizabeth.

Thomas Stephens marriage to Jane Amesbury 1858 she is widowed her father is William Tucker.

Stephens...

Thomas/Jane/Cornelius/Joseph/Righteous/Liberty/Clementina tent 2 Rodborough Common these found on 1881 census

if any is any help to you.
ESSEX, KENT, LONDON, SUFFOLK, SUSSEX.
Bachelor, Baker, Beeny, Boswell, Brazil, Burgess, Carter, Clements, Cooper, Cornelius, Collins, Day, Dobson, Eastwood, Ellis, Farr, Fairbeard, Harris, Holland/s, Jenkins, Jones, Kennett, K/nave/s, Lyon, Lee, Penfold, Ransley, Robert/s, Reeve/s, Smith, Stone, Thompsett, Tomsit, Wood/s.

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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 April 12 16:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that but I think the Thomas Im looking for may have been married to Jane Loveridge

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 April 12 20:20 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

Moet,

Take a look at Eric Trudgill's site if you haven't already.

He has, Tom Stevens, brother of my ancestor Eve as being married to Jane Loveridge.
Before that he had an alleged partnership with Leondra Bagley.

Other siblings, Francis, Leonard, Eliza and others.

The parents of Tom Stevens were Emmanuel Stevens and Eve Lock, daughter of Merrick Lock and Mary Lee.
Source} Eric Trudgill Gypsy Genealogy}

As a long shot, if you go onto Romany Genes and scroll down and click on Vincent smith page ( Thanks Sue Day), there is a photo of my grt grt Grandad Guilroy Smith along with his brother Reuben and Samson.  Samson was I believe, married to Comfort Stevens' ( nee Gregory) aunt Jane Musto.

Take a look at Reuben ( seated in the middle) and compare with the photo with Singey Buckland and Reuben Smith and co.  Is it the same man??

I don't know. See what you think.  The dates and locations are right. I know this Reuben was a preacher who ran a church at Hartlebury, but we don't know who he married.

My ancestor Eve Stevens is buried in Horton and her husband Guilroy in Leonard Stanley Glos. This reflects the families work circuit.

All very interesting to me, because i know so many of the present day relatives of the Stevens, Bucklands and loveridges who live there today.
i've heard that one of the clan is writing a book, can't wait to read it :)

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Re: Stevens - Loveridge
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 April 12 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hello Vince,

Once again thanks for this info its much appreciated.

Your Gt Gt Uncle Reuben Smith isnt the one Im searching for but thanks anyway.

Thomas & Comfort are buried in Horton although not together about 15 graves apart,
whats the story with Horton? there must have been a stopping place in there??

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 April 12 15:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Moet,

The story with Horton is agriculture.

The local farms were the stopping places.  Horton is a stone throw from Heathrow, itself built on farmland.

The region was known to the older generation as the " Fruit Country ".  There were also lots of peas to be picked.

The circuit of these afore- mentioned families, would follow the crops that were picked at various seasons.

Later, they would head to the West Country and Hampshire  for hops.  That's why we get members of the same families, buried so far apart.

Some family members still work for the same farming families today. :)

With agriculture being so important, it's no wonder the Stevens familly got caught up in the Swing Riots back in Chedworth.