GERMANY: Immigrants to East End from Germany

[loo]

I'm surprised you found the book at amazon, as it wasn't there when I was looking for it a while back.
Anyhow, I now have the book.
There is a Charles Hermann, 6 Manilla St., Millwall, E    whom the book says is listed in the 1902 London Trade Directory under Hairdressers and Perfumers. 
There are also several other people surnamed Herman(n):  Jack, Jacob, Joseph, Pieterkosky, Emil, Gustav, Joseph, Julius, and Peter.

[irene. seabrook]

Yes thank you so much that is my gt.grandfather at 6 Manilla St. Does it say anything more about him. Would I find anything else out if I bought the book. Did you see it listed on Amazon 4-6 week wait. Many many thanks for your kind reply. Irene

[loo]

Glad I could help!
No, it doesn't say anything more about him specifically;  he is just one in a long list - my greatgrandfather is on the page opposite, further down the list!
The book is useful though for giving the context of their work, and it gives some clues along the way as to how one might do further research. 
I can envision a better book, but this is useful inasmuch as there isn't anything else on the topic, and it is a beginning.  If you are planning on doing more extensive work on his "world", then I would suggest you get the book.
On the other hand, if you're not really all that interested in hairdressers and their struggles, then perhaps not.  A good chunk of the book is taken up with the author's own discovery of her family back in Germany and how she was able to find them and meet them.  There are numerous photos which are interesting as well, and some examples of various forms, and a one-page bibliography.

I ordered mine directly, and didn't have to wait very long at all, FYI.  The book is 140pages, printed on large paper in largish print, paperback.

[irene. seabrook]

Thank you so very much for taking the trouble to reply. I went to the records office in Bancroft Road and saw the entry in the directory for Charles Hermann, hairdresser. My gt.gdf can be found at the address mentioned in the 1901 census. I am hoping that when I can get to Kew(I live in Norfolk)there may be a copy of an Indenture that he completed to serve his apprenticeship, you never know. Thank you again for your help. Many thanks Irene

[loo]

The confusion in forenames might be due to the fact that Germans typically used the final of their 2 or 3 or 4 forenames as the one they were known by, whereas the British may have referred to them by their first forename.
Where does Bin(n)er fit in?  That is completely different.

[PMD54]

Hi

I am new to this forum, but I was intrigued by your post.  I have the name Tewes in my wife's ancestry but the name is a surname, not a first name.  Our family member is Joseph Tewes (born 1850, Germany) who turns up in the East End of London around 1870 - Interestingly because of the differences in pronunciation (Tewes is pronounced 'Tevis' in German) the family were entered on one of the Census' as 'Davis'

[juniper]

Hi,

The name TEWES is unusual and I am now finding other relatives on my Steffens side (the mother of my Tewes Goebener was Marie Steffens) with that name too.    It seems the spelling of the name Tewes in the Steffens family  in Malstedt and Selsingen in Hannover was often shown as THEES or THEIS.  In fact, when I found our TEWES on the 1851 Census in Shadwell/Wapping, London,  his name was written as THEIS.  From the 1861 onwards his name was written as TEWES.   We have seen our TEWES written in error  as LEWIS on transcription of his marriage regn on Ancestry but I don't know if he was known as Lewis or how his name of TEWES was prononced.   I am grateful to you for the pronounciation of your family name of  "TEVIS" and I think this pronounciation may be a possibility.   It's not one I have come across before.   There was a Sugarbaker in London shown on the Mauer list  with surname of TEWES; sure I picked him up at one stage - is he yours?. 

To update the information on this Post, I have now confirmed  my family connection back to Selsingen and Malstedt, with the help of the St. Lamberti Lutheran Church in Selsingen and have our TEWES' date of birth, both parents names and can trace back on the Goebener line now to 1600s.  They kindly passed my letter on to a researcher in Hamburg who found the information for me.   I am now working on the Steffens tree and am back to Tewes grandfather, VALERIUS STEFFENS born August 27, 1766 in Malstedt, Hannover.   I have Steffens relies in San Diego, South California, and Alaska who I am now trying to prove the link too.  Most are descended from siblings of our MARIE STEFFENS who left Malstedt in the 1860s and later.

It goes to show that if you keep persevering, even though deadended for years, we can with the help and inspiration of other researchers eventually get a good result.

So thank you all for your very kind help.  Juniper

[juniper]

Hi, back again, I recently tried to use the new ancestry.co. uk data re 1850 passenger lists from Hamburg to pick up my gr gr gr grandfather  Tewes Gobener.   The Anglo Germany FHS say he arrived in London on the Caledonia on 5th November 1850.  I trawled through the 1850 ancestry passenger  lists but cannot find the Caledonia nor a Gobener  anywhere.  As there are about 178 pages on that years list,  in no sort of apparent order,  to go thru I gave up. A very expensive exercise! What did I do wrong?    Would just like to see if anyone else was travelling with him at the time.  Just wondered if anyone else had found anyone on the new lists successfully?  Juniper

[loo]

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that ancestry is haphazard with their indexing.
Can you not ask the AGFHS for a reference as to where they got this?  I believe Len Metzner or whatever his name is, is still living, for instance.  Perhaps he, or someone, still has a copy of whatever they got this from.