Thomas Stayt

[forefathers]

The Glos FHS Baptisms Index has :

STAYT Thomas, son of Richard (labourer) and Anne baptised Longborough, St James, 2 Jun 1816.

Longborough to Icomb is only 6 miles. Seems plausible to me.

[mrharchitect]

To Forefathers

Your record of their marriage at St Marys Cheltenham in 1836 would fit in with the timescale (their first child Henry was born in 1837) although I am surprised they were not married in Hannah's birth town of Stow on the Wold.  Perhaps she was in service in Cheltenham?  Your record of them living in Ampney Crucis in 1851 is correct.  I would like to see the 1841 record you mention as I have not found it myself.

[forefathers]

Yes, my guess would be that one or other or both of them were working in Cheltenham in 1836.

That said, if the 1841 census entry I've found is correct, and I think it must be, then Thomas is shown on that census as a "baker". Was that an earlier occupation or is it an error, I wonder?

The entry is reference HO 107 / 889 / 12 for the parish of Coggs, near Witney, which was the place of birth given for the two eldest children in 1851. That, plus the unusual name Charlton (1851)/Carlton (1841) makes me pretty confident this is correct.

Newland:

Thomas Stayt 25 Baker Not born in Oxon
Hannah 25 Born in Oxon
Henry 4 Born in Oxon
Carlton 1 Born in Oxon

If you have a subscription to Ancestry, they've got it mistranscribed under HAYT.
FindMyPast have it under STAYT.

Hope you can find it.

Pete

[mrharchitect]

To Forefathers.

Yes the 1841 record is correct.  Thanks for that.  The misreading of Stayt as Hayt in Ancestry.co.uk had me fooled.

Martin

[mrharchitect]

To Forefathers.

Thank you for the birth reference to Thomas Stayt at Longborough in 1816.  I have done further  research and find that Thomas put Stanton as his birth place in the 1851 Census.  Stanton is quite close to Longborough and seems more feasible.  I have found a Richard Stait (agricultural labourer) and Anne (Jackson) married in 1814 in Temple Guiting, also quite close to Stanton / Longborough, although Richard Stait seems to have spent most of his life (1785 to 1858) in Temple Guiting.  Although spelt differently do you think this is the Richard and Anne Stayt you have seen in the Longbough entry?

[forefathers]

Hmmm... Sorry, but I'm not convinced the Thomas Stayt baptised in Longborough is the right one now. If you do a search on Ancestry in the census for Thomas Stayte born Longborough 1816 +/- 5 I think you'll find him still in Longborough, occupation tailor, married to a Frances, living with his mother Ann... That's surely the Longborough baptism?

So, I'll have another look for your Thomas.

Pete

[forefathers]

He's proving pretty elusive. The vast number of possible variants of this surname doesn't help (I've seen STAYT, STAYTE, STAYTT, STAIT, STAITE, STATE, also probably STAIGHT, STEIGHT...).

One thing that is quite possibly relevant here is that Icomb was in Worcester Diocese until 1912 and does not appear to be covered by the Glos FHS baptisms index I'm using.

The only STA*T* I can find baptised in Stanton is an Edita, illegitimate daughter of Phoebe, 30 May 1819, Stanton St. Michael.

If I get a chance I'll try to look at the Icomb registers next time I'm at Gloucester Archives.

Pete

[mrharchitect]

Thanks for that. Look forward to further info from you if can look it up for me. I am in Cornwall so difficult to visit Gloucestershire. 

Martin

[mrharchitect]

I am still chasing Thomas Stayt.  I would like to know the exact location of Park Cottage where he and his family lived between about 1860 and 1900.  It is (was) backing onto the Thorngrove estate near Grimley Worcestershire where he worked as a butler for a succession of owners.  It was quite a big cottage with 6 bedrooms and about 2 acres of land. It does not show on Google maps but perhaps it is on a Victorian map of the time.