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Offline NancyRose

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Need help with dating (and gender!)
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 00:39 GMT (UK) »
I am hoping that the wonderful people in this forum can help me with this photo. When I first looked at the first photo below, I suspected it was my great-great-grandmother's brother in his clerical dress. He was an Episcopal priest in New York (1827-1900).

However, upon closer examination, I'm thinking this is a woman - perhaps my ggg-grandmother Alexvina (1800-1890).

This small photo is roughly 2" tall by 1-1/2" wide and is apparently glued on to dark cardboard. The cardboard was hand trimmed, perhaps to make it fit into a frame? There are no markings on the back.

So my questions are:

1) gender?
2) approximate date?
3) using the second picture below, might this small photo be the same woman as in one or both of the other images?

Thanks so much for your help!

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Re: Need help with dating (and gender!)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 March 12 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about the date Nancy but it looks like a woman to me.
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Re: Need help with dating (and gender!)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 March 12 08:51 GMT (UK) »
I'm pretty sure this is a woman. It looks like the hair is braided or somehow pulled back, there is a brooch at the collar, and I'm almost positive it's a woman's dress they're wearing. I'd guess the photo dates from the early 1900s or 1910s? I'm afraid I don't see any strong resemblance between this photo and the other two. I would expect the women depicted in the other photo and portrait to be much older by time the this photograph was taken.

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Re: Need help with dating (and gender!)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 March 12 11:32 GMT (UK) »
The 1st. one's definitely a woman as most men didn't wear dresses.She's wearing an early 1900's bodice.
The 2nd. could be an 1850's/60's ambrotype or an 1860's tintype so there's a 50 year gap between these 2.
The 3rd. 1790's -1830's.

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Re: Need help with dating (and gender!)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 March 12 13:16 GMT (UK) »
You seem sure that there is a relationship between these ladies as a couple of them have been posted before...I wonder if L-R they could  be Daughter, her Mother & her Grandmother?
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Re: Need help with dating (and gender!)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 March 12 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, all!

Knowing that the small photo is circa early 1900s is extremely helpful as it rules out my two top ranked prospects.

Many thanks for your generosity in sharing your expertise.

-- Nancy