William Anderson/Henderson

[MonicaL]

We are at the very frustrating bit!

How old do we guess Elizabeth Fraser may be when having John and William? Guessing perhaps born c. 1840s, maybe early 1850s if John and William were born in the mid 1870s.

Monica

[Forfarian]

I note with great interest (now that the old IGI is up and running again) that a John Fraser, son of Elizabeth Fraser, no father named, was born in Glasgow Tradeston on 19 February 1872. This John would have been aged 19 on the day of the 1891 census.

[sancti]

John is buried in Common ground

[macy56]

Hi Alison

I've just come across your message written in March regarding William Reeves or Anderson.  Did you find the information you were looking for?  My Grandmother, Georgina was married to John Anderson when he committed suicide on their wedding anniversary and while she was pregnant with their second child.  John jumped from the Auchincampbell Bridge in Hamilton in 1904.  I have a photo of John taken with my Grandmother and their daughter, Elizabeth.

If I can help with any other information let me know.

Macy56

[alisonb123]

Hi macy

Thanks for getting in touch. I would love to see the photo and see what other information you have. You csn email me at (*) looking forward to hearing back from you.

Alison

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[macy56]

Hi again Alison

This is what I know about John Anderson.  I had no idea that he had a twin brother because I haven't got around to looking into his background.  As I said John married my Grandmother, Georgina Fraser Snedden in 1900 in Hamilton  age 24yrs.  He was a coal Miner.  They had 2 daughters, Elizabeth born 1901 and Robina born 1903 (sorry I gave you the wrong info that Georgina was pregnant when John died).  Elizabeth died age 31yrs a year after giving birth to her daughter, Georgina (father unknown).  I knew my auntie, Robina (aka Beanie) who died in the 1970s.  Hope this makes sense?

I have John and Georgina's marriage extract and a copy of the RCE regarding his death.  I have also visited the bridge and it is very high!  My mum told me John was depressed because he couldn't find a job to support his family.  I can give you copies of the above and a copy of the photo I mentioned earlier by scanning and e-mailing to you or by posting if you would prefer.

Nice to hear from you Alison.

Kind regards

Macy

[TReeves]

Hi Alison and Macy,

I know I am joining this conversation a little late but I have recently started looking into my family tree and find it fascinating. William Anderson is my Gt Grandfather. I would love to see the photograph of his brother John.

Like you, I am struggling to find any information prior to the wedding between William and Francis Dines in 1897. I would love to know what William did during his period of travelling between ages 11-22, and any information about his childhood before he left home. Basically any information that people would be happy to share about the entire family!

Thank you,

Teddy

[carolineasb]

Just a wee point, and I'm wondering if it's causing the problem with the parents of William and John, but if you look at John's marriage certificate both his mother and his wife's mother are given as an Elizabeth nee Fraser and I'm wondering if that was a mistake by the Registrar?  His wife's middle name is Fraser so it looks as if her mother is correct.  I may be wrong?

[macy56]

Hi Teddy

I would be happy to pass on any information I have regarding John Anderson including the photo.  Alison, who I've been in touch with is from John's side of the family so she knows more than me and I'm sure would be happy to help you.  We've been unable to trace John's birth entry and wonder if it could be down to his name not being spelled correctly or even if he was registered under another name (not uncommon).  You're correct that their mother's names are both Elizabeth Fraser.  Don't know if it's correct for John but my Grandmother, Georgina's, mother was definitely, Elizabeth Fraser. I've visited the cemetery where John is buried and it's common ground with no marking, which is so sad.  It would be nice if the Council put up a sign in commemoration of the poor souls who lie there. I've also been to the house he lived in with my Grandmother when he died.  Also, if you saw earlier posts, I thought I had made a mistake when I said that my Grandmother was pregnant at the time John died, Alison later found information that she was and the baby died at a few months old.   If you have any information to pass on to me and Alison it would be great to hear from you.

Kind regards

Macy