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WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« on: Monday 19 March 12 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have found my gt grandfathers death on the WW1 graves roll, he was a merchant Navy seaman from Southern Ireland. He died in 1915.

Listed as;
"Killed or Died by means other than disease, accident, or Enemy Action"
Location of grave:-     Not recorded
Cemetery Address:-   Body not recovered for Burial

I was wondering if anyone would know if there would be a cenotaph with his name on it? Or if you had to die in action? Also, would he have received any medals?

Thanks for any help on this matter.

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Re: WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 March 12 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Name interests: Boulton, Murrell, Lock, Croxton, Skinner, Blewett, Tonkin, Trathen.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 March 12 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for this, I got very excited. However, no info on either memorial site or war medals.
What could this mean? Maybe he died of natural causes and was not entitled?

Many Thanks  :)

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Re: WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Easiest if you give us a name (and date of birth, place of birth etc) and we can check around for you.
Name interests: Boulton, Murrell, Lock, Croxton, Skinner, Blewett, Tonkin, Trathen.
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Re: WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Coffey have you a name for him?
Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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Re: WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:28 GMT (UK) »
His name is Thomas Kiely. He died 7th Dec 1915 and his death was registered in Ireland. His age is listed as 36 (however I think this is wrong)
He served on the HMS Orbita Royals Naval reserve, 2221C Dev
His rank is SMN

Thank you all for interest/help :)

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:31 GMT (UK) »
http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/3042491/KIELY,%20THOMAS

Ah, Royal Naval Reserve!
Not merchant navy after all, I imagine that's what was causing confusion

He died of illness.
http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1915-12Dec.htm
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Wow!!! Thank you so much   :D

My mistake  :-\  Sorry about that! I can't even read my own handwritting  :)

I am SO happy....thank you for your help! I have been banging my head against a brick wall :-)

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Re: WW1 NAVAL GRAVES
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:46 GMT (UK) »
I guess you've found this by now: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/46109062/1/HMS%20Orbita?h=7d2ef0 and also the basics on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Orbita

The Ship's Log might just shed some light. It's at the National Archives at Kew, not digitised; for the one covering this death you need
ADM 53/53490  1915 December 1 - 1915 December 31

Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
in Stirlingshire, Roxburghshire; Bucks; Devon; Somerset; Northumberland; Carmarthenshire; Glamorgan