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DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« on: Monday 19 March 12 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Looking for any information for Gregory DEBNEY who married Margaret FALLON, farmers, Galway, son John DEBNEY b. abt 1816 and emigrated to Australia.
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire

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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 September 24 23:42 BST (UK) »
I am looking for more information on this as well, they are my 4th great grandparents.

Gregory Debney (born 1795 Galway)
Married Margaret/Margarita Fallon (born 1796)
they had one son, John who was born 1816 when Gregory was 21 and his Margaret was 20.
John who emigrated to Australia in 1834, at age 19 yo where he lived his life as a farmer and also opened a general store in the booming gold rush era of central Victoria.
When John Debney was 62yo he married his shop assistant Sarah Lawrence who had emigrated from Hertfordshire UK with her 8 children from a previous husband (who had deserted her and the kids) 
They had 2 more children together.
John Debney passed away at age 80yo.
I've found all this so far on ancestry.com but it doesn't go back any further than Gregory Debney (born 1795 Galway)

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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 September 24 23:54 BST (UK) »
John Debney and Sarah Lawrence's first daughter together, Mary Ann Debney (born 1850) is my 2nd great grandmother.  Their second daughter was Emma (born 1851)
Mary Ann Debney married James Campbell Muir (born 1843, Renfrew, Glasgow, Scotland) who had emigrated to Australia with his father, a ships captain.
Mary and James Muir lived in the goldfields of central Victoria, Australia and had 15 children. 
Their daughter Mary is my maternal great-grandmother.

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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 September 24 23:59 BST (UK) »
I noticed you have "Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow" in the bottom of your post.
I wonder if that is any relation to my 2nd great grandfather
James Campbell Muir, (born 1843 Renfrew, Scotland) who married Mary Ann Debney in Australia. 
I don't have any family information about James Campbell Muir.


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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 September 24 13:32 BST (UK) »
Gregory Debney would be a VERY unusual name for Ireland.
Could he have been a soldier?
There are no Debney entries in the Griffiths Valuation or the Tithe Applotments.
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 September 24 02:25 BST (UK) »
thanks so much for your post, it has been such a long time since I looked up Rootschat. No, John Debney was not a soldier, thanks for looking, Whisky
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire

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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 September 24 10:00 BST (UK) »
I can only find one person in the whole of the 1901 Irish census with the name Debney. She was a Maggie Debany, born and living in Belfast:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Easton_Cresc/961479/

Apart from the fact that the surname Debney (and variant spellings) is unknown in Galway and almost unknown in Ireland generally, your other problem is that very few parishes in Co. Galway have any records for the early 1800s, so there may not be a record of this couple’s marriage in Ireland to find.

Perhaps Debney is a corruption of some other name, though I can’t really suggest what that might be.
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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 September 24 17:58 BST (UK) »
I can only find one person in the whole of the 1901 Irish census with the name Debney. She was a Maggie Debany, born and living in Belfast:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Easton_Cresc/961479/
To me Maggie's surname looks more like Deleaney but since it was written by her employer the spelling might not be correct- Delany?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000317036/

There are some Daubneys in 1911 but not from Galway. 1901 has one D'Aubney (born in Scotland) and one Daubney.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: DEBNEY/FALLON marriage Galway
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 September 24 00:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply, perhaps John Debney's father was English and he married an Irish girl, Margaret Fallon, quite possible I think. Whisky
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire