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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 March 12 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Me again, a more complete description of Robert Nesbitt Fowler:

Fowler. — Lieut. Robert Nesbitt Fowler, 16th Lancers,
died Feb. 26th, 1902, near Calvinia, of wounds
received in action the previous day. He was the
second son of the late R. D. Fowler, Esq., of Liver-
pool, and of Mrs. Fowler, Bentley, Hampshire. He
was born March, 1875, educated at Leys School,
Cambridge, and Brasenose College, Oxford, where he
took his B.A. degree in 1897. He entered the 16th
Lancers from the 4th Batt. Argyll and Sutherland
Highlanders, Jan., 1899, being promoted lieut. the
following October. Lieut. Fowler went to South
Africa with his regiment in Feb., 1900, and saw
much service during the war. He was at one time
Transport Officer to a column, and was mentioned in
despatches by Lieut. -Gen. Lord Kitchener, March Sth,
1902, for " gallantry in bringing in a dismounted man
under heavy and close fire, Dec. 22nd, 1901." A relief
bronze and oak tablet has been erected to his memory
in Brasenose College, Oxford, by his brother officers.

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 March 12 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Sorry no...I dont think it is...I would not have expected infantry scarlet tunic, a poss QRWS collar dog and an inf sword.

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 March 12 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much, Scrimnet  :o)

Good to have all this information!! Hopefully one day we will be able to ID him. Our family moved to South Africa 1870's, but he is not one of known one's. Could be a cousin (like Robert Fowler) or a family friend ...

Will keep your info in case another name surfaces   :o)

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 March 12 23:56 GMT (UK) »
The other thing that would ID a "Donkey Walloper" (ie cavalry) would be chain mail on the shoulders instead of epaulettes  ;)
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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 March 12 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Nom de guerre  ;D ;D

Anyway, on the pic...

The leggings are not quite Stowasser...

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki_and_green/clothing_ww1/leggings.php


It doesn't matter at all for helping jennigal, I know, but if you look closely, you can see the spiral straps of Stohwasser gaiters on the photo.  Clearly a fine leather.

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 March 12 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Scrimnet, I checked your link and it says that they (the Stowasser leggings)  were worn by Australian Mounted Troops. Could this mean that he was from Australia?

**OK, done a bit more reading and it seems that they were patented 1899, and first used, mostly, in South Africa during the Boer War, and use increased from there. So ignore my above question, unless you think there is more to add***

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 March 12 02:30 GMT (UK) »
Is the shirt shown in this link a good example of what my mystery guy is wearing (ignoring the Slade Wallace equipment)?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Slade+wallace&view=detail&id=A1F3F1DD8E19EEF2F04A983EA205BC073D292C79&first=0

thank you, again  :o)

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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 March 12 07:34 GMT (UK) »
The tunic is the 5th one down on here...

http://www.sutlers.co.uk/acatalog/zulu.html
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Re: Dating: anyone out there able to ID military uniform?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 March 12 07:52 GMT (UK) »
any better
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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