Henry Waite

[Michael Dixon]

 The community of Berwick lay within the Parish of Berwick, which lay within the county of Berwick. None of these entities were within the country of Scotland. (since C16th)

 Fryer@s map of 1820.....       communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006955FS.htm

  This shows that the town of Berwick occupies only a small area of the county of Berwick
( Fryer's map calls it Berwick Bounds). Newcastle also used to refer to itself as a county.

Scotland is shown as colourless area. This is Scotland's county of Berwickshire ( now incorporated into Scotland's Border District.

The town of North Berwick lay/lies more northerly in the county of East Lothian.  Some natives just refer to their town as " Berwick".


Trivia Angle .On the linked map the Parish of Tweedmouth lies south of Berwick. It is marked as been in the County of Durham. Which it was until 1844.


Michael

[Gadget]

Yes.

This thread was originally posted in Berwickshire and was moved  here  last evening. Thus, the early posts reflect my  concern that Ogleway had posted on the wrong board.  I've checked both available online  Co. Durham and Northumberland records - including some trawls through the online BTs for Tweedsmouth - and Berwickshire bpts. Also checked the brother and possible Waite(alts) marriages and Waite/Ogle marriages. (Henry's only son was also a William Ogle Waite)

Note that Janis and others have looked in non-conformist/Dissenter records on at least a couple of previous threads that I've linked to in Reply #6

gnu

[Ogleway]

Thanks for that Michael.
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[c-side]

I was at Woodhorn archives today and had a quick look through a few years of Berwick PRs.

Did not spot Henry though I only looked three years either side of 1802.

It might be worth looking at Tweedmouth next week if you still need the information.

Christine

[Gadget]

Hi Christine

This might help -  a link to Ogleway's list of siblings:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,582036.msg4338321.html#msg4338321

I think this suggests that the father might be a Henry.

The IGI do have the Tweedmouth entries and they're not on that -  maybe non-conformist.

Janis did find an Elizabeth (probably sister)  in Etal Presbyterian records.


gnu

[c-side]

Hi gnu,

I had read the other thread but thought eliminating Berwick PRs might be useful.

Just thinking now that if the Henry you found in Wooler in '61 is correct and his age is also accurate then I should have started the search around 1805 instead of finishing it then 

Christine

[Ogleway]

Hi Everyone and thanks for your help,

The 1861 Henry is correct and it is assumed through the naming pattern of children and his brothers children that Henry is his father and mother was possibly an Eleanor.

Gnu you could be correct re 1805 birth. Army record suggests 1802, and to confuse he died 1868 aged 59, so suggests birth of 1809!
My thinking was people are more accurate re birth dates when they are young that is why I thought of all poss birth dates 1802 likely.

I am still waiting on his Army records to pop through the door and am hoping they will hold useful information. Knowing how my search has gone so far, I am not holding my breath!

Thanks again to you all
Ogleway 

[Gadget]

Hi again all 

I think a broad age range should be allowed for because he seems to have reduced his age after his marrage - his wife being (probably) 20 years his junior.  The Nat Archives  WO69 series  records him as 20 when he joined the army in 1822,  He was in the 35-39  group in 1841 and was 50 in 1851. After that  he is 56 on the 1861 and (from the other thread) 59 in 1868. A pity that there is a lack of a marriage record and only  'Lamberton 1854' written on his son's Coldingham birth cert (no day/month given)

Al the evidence suggests that the family were non-conformist.   Are there any wills?


gnu

[Gadget]

Just a thought, Ogleway -

I'm not sure if you're aware that the images of the Tweedmouth BTs are available to search online

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11607-152745-74?cc=1309819&wc=11540418

It's a bit tedious searching but you can jump to the approx pages and work from there. I did have a quick look the other day but didn't see anything so far.

These are  the established church records though so I'm not sure if they would include Henry's baptism or any of his family. They have to be checked though.


gnu