Author Topic: Which portrait is which?  (Read 2348 times)

Offline NancyRose

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 27
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Which portrait is which?
« on: Monday 12 March 12 01:42 GMT (UK) »
This image is a collection of 4 images. The two on the left are prints of miniature portraits of my ggg-grandmother and her sister. I believe that the two photos on the right are also of the two sisters.

I am having difficulty seeing the resemblance between the portraits and the photos when they are older.

Which portrait is which sister?  Let's number them 1-4, left to right.  Is the pairing 1-3 & 2-4 or 1-4 & 2-3?  All opinions welcome!

TIA, Nancy

Offline PrueM

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,637
  • Please don't try to PM me :)
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 March 12 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nancy :)

I can see a resemblance between the two photographs, so they could easily be sisters.  However, I'm afraid I can't see any similarities between the two paintings and either of the photos  :-\ There may have been a measure of artistic licence used in the paintings, meaning it's hard to reconcile them to photos...plus the space of quite a few years between them makes it even more difficult to match them up.

Someone with a better eye than me might be able to see resemblances though.

Cheers
Prue

Offline NancyRose

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 27
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 March 12 01:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Prue -

Glad it's not just me! I suppose those who painted portraits needed to make sure that the image was flattering... their livelihood depended on it!

My thanks, Nancy

Offline charlotteCH

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,175
  • Genealogy's worth chatting about.
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 March 12 03:23 GMT (UK) »
#4 has a dimple which neither of the young ones has in the paintings.  You'd think a portrait painter would have put that in if it existed.  So no mileage there.

The age difference makes likenesses hard to pick.
I'm no help at all... sorry :'(

charlotte


Offline eregli_gene

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 87
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 March 12 05:22 GMT (UK) »
I'd say 1=3  and 2=4   based on the nose length to eye width ratio.

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,276
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 March 12 05:44 GMT (UK) »
I agree that it's too difficult to pair the portaits with the photographs, but if I had to choose, perhaps 1 may pair with 3, but I disagree that 2 is the same woman as 4. The chin is completely different.  :)

Offline NancyRose

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 27
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 March 12 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all!

Here's another photo of #4 - taken when she's even older - but thinner. On the left is the "original" which I'm told is a reprint, and on the right is a restored version done by a kind soul on this board.

Does this help? If not, we'll just chalk it up to a portrait artist who took a lot of liberties to make them look as attractive as possible!

Offline dillonking

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 334
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 March 12 14:03 GMT (UK) »
I'd say 1 and 3 and definitely 2 and 4. There is something about the expression. The 3 photo is lacking in expression so it is more difficult to see but the artist captures something in the 2 portrait and the 4 photographer has to my mind caught it also.
Dublin : King, Burgess, Toole, Martin, Keogh
 Wicklow : Toole, Burgess, , Mc Loughlin, Doyle,  Warren,
Armagh: Reynolds Vallely
Monoghan: Burgess
Keogh. Delgany : Doyle White and possibly McLoughlin
Carlow: Dillon, Delaney
Unknown county: Sweeney and Moran. Sweeneys went to Lpool 1840s and Michael Moran 1820s

Offline Lydart

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,272
    • View Profile
Re: Which portrait is which?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 12 14:21 GMT (UK) »
I'd say the first portrait is (probably) the same lady as no 3 photo ... the eyebrows are strong in both.   The 2nd and 4th .... who knows !


But how lovely to have miniatures of ancestors !    Envy ... envy !
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

WRITE LETTERS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO TREASURE ... EMAILS DISAPPEAR !

Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk